Which is worse: right-wing collectivism or left-wing collectivism?

[Argentano]

i have the impression everything the left says is bullshit. At least i feel this way after 12 years of a socialist governament.

[JMack]

Lef-Wing collectivism since almost everything that sprung from a certain left is dangerous, baseless and plainly wrong.

Left wing anthropological foundations are based on incorrect things, so their regimes would be more dangerous. I would say that I can see many positive things in some forms of right-wing collectivism. Maybe the Sovietic system and others started to distance themselves to pure left wing ideals and some leftist ideas can also be good and consistent, like certain forms of income distribution and the emphasis on nationalism of certain leftist tendencies.

But being honest, the biggest danger to the world is liberalism, far worse than any right-wing or left-wing form of ''collectivism''.

[Tooting Carmen]

Lef-Wing collectivism since almost everything that sprung from a certain left is dangerous, baseless and plainly wrong.

Left wing anthropological foundations are based on incorrect things, so their regimes would be more dangerous. I would say that I can see many positive things in some forms of right-wing collectivism. Maybe the Sovietic system and others started to distance themselves to pure left wing ideals and some leftist ideas can also be good and consistent, like certain forms of income distribution and the emphasis on nationalism of certain leftist tendencies.

But being honest, the biggest danger to the world is liberalism, far worse than any right-wing or left-wing form of ''collectivism''.

In what way? What is wrong with the basic common sense precept that people are first and foremost individuals and should be treated as such?

[JMack]

In what way? What is wrong with the basic common sense precept that people are first and foremost individuals and should be treated as such?

It's based on incorrect anthropological foundations. When a society is affected by forms of liberalism, democracy and permissiveness it means it's already dying.

[JohnSmith]

No, it doesn't. The difference in intelligence between whites and negroes for example is huge and so insurmountable that all negroes in Western countries should either be sent back to Africa or be sterilized and be subject to the same kind of laws the Nazis had against the Jews that took them out of public life (without actually killing them).

How can you call yourself a good Christian with this terrible thinking. African Americas are as American as Apple Pie.

[JohnSmith]

When it comes to countries like the USA and Brazil, the big debate is whether racial disparities in overall wealth and intelligence are to do with nature on the one hand and nurture and history on the other. Had slavery and (in the USA's case) State-imposed segregation not occurred, and instead Blacks could migrate freely to those countries just as Whites had done and could live freely and fully integrated among Whites, would the racial disparities in those countries be anything like as big as they are? Very debatable and contentious.

The disparities would not be as bad if Africans freely immigrated to the USA. However, Latinos freely immigrate to the USA and there are still disparities among them and white Americans.

[Tooting Carmen]

The disparities would not be as bad if Africans freely immigrated to the USA. However, Latinos freely immigrate to the USA and there are still disparities among them and white Americans.

Yes, but Mexico has a big border with the USA, therefore Latinos of all types can migrate easily, whereas geography and money would be bigger hindrances for Africans (as with Europeans, for that matter).

[Smeagol]

How can you call yourself a good Christian with this terrible thinking. African Americas are as American as Apple Pie.

I'm not a Christian and they're not Americans at all. Naturalization Act of 1790 restricts citizenship to free White people of good character. Laws that came later allowing Negroes and other Colored Races to become Americans are against the wishes of the Founding Fathers. Non-Whites cannot be true Americans.

[JohnSmith]

I'm not a Christian and they're not Americans at all. Naturalization Act of 1790 restricts citizenship to free White people of good character. Laws that came later allowing Negroes and other Colored Races to become Americans are against the wishes of the Founding Fathers. Non-Whites cannot be true Americans.

The founding father had a lot of flaws,, we cannot expect perfection from men of the 18th century. The country has progressed since 1790.

[Smeagol]

The founding father had a lot of flaws,, we cannot expect perfection from men of the 18th century. The country has progressed since 1790.

No, they were absolutely right and Non-Whites should be deported from the US.