View Poll Results: Which type of collectivism is worse?

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  • Right-wing collectivism

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Thread: Which is worse: right-wing collectivism or left-wing collectivism?

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    Right Wing collectivism is more about national unity and the good of the country while left wing collectivism wants to put normal citizens and subhumans into the same pot...by force

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    The main problem with many right-wingers is that they confuse difference with hierarchy. This was taken to its most absurd and brutal extreme in Nazi Germany and to a lesser extent Apartheid-era South Africa and the Jim Crow-era Southern USA. To say that White and Black people are objectively different and can be categorised as such is one thing. To say that one group is better or worse than the other, however, is a total nonsense.
    Was National Socialist party. They were far left. Hitler and other Nazis got their idea of killing Jews (and others) from American leftists like Margaret Sanger and Woodrow Wilson, who believed in Eugenics (who liked to idea of killing blacks, people with mental problems and others).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    No, they were absolutely right and Non-Whites should be deported from the US.
    I think one day you will open up ad realize racism is just wrong. We cannot control what we are born into judging people based on race and not merit is just unAmerican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I'm not a Christian and they're not Americans at all. Naturalization Act of 1790 restricts citizenship to free White people of good character. Laws that came later allowing Negroes and other Colored Races to become Americans are against the wishes of the Founding Fathers. Non-Whites cannot be true Americans.
    As a compromise in order to form the United States, they allowed slave states and counted slaves as 2/3 a person for congressional representation purposes. Free blacks were citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    As a compromise in order to form the United States, they allowed slave states and counted slaves as 2/3 a person for congressional representation purposes. Free blacks were citizens.
    I thought the Supreme Court in the Dred Scott case ruled free blacks cannot be citizens. It did rule that Native Americans that joined American society were citizens. However, this is ancient history the country progressed a lot since this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    As a compromise in order to form the United States, they allowed slave states and counted slaves as 2/3 a person for congressional representation purposes. Free blacks were citizens.
    True but they weren't real Americans either. Still just Africans living in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    I think one day you will open up ad realize racism is just wrong. We cannot control what we are born into judging people based on race and not merit is just unAmerican.
    No it isn't. Racial egalitarianism is unAmerican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    I thought the Supreme Court in the Dred Scott case ruled free blacks cannot be citizens. It did rule that Native Americans that joined American society were citizens. However, this is ancient history the country progressed a lot since this time.
    "We know that among the Romans, about the Augustan age especially, the condition of their slaves was much more deplorable than that of the blacks on the continent of America. ... Yet notwithstanding these and other discouraging circumstances among the Romans, their slaves were often their rarest artists. They excelled too in science, insomuch as to be usually employed as tutors to their master's children. Epictetus, Terence, and Phaedrus, were slaves. But they were of the race of whites. It is not their condition then, but nature, which has produced the distinction."
    "Among the Romans emancipation required but one effort. The slave, when made free, might mix with, without staining the blood of his master. But with us a second is necessary, unknown to history. When freed, he is to be removed beyond the reach of mixture." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    No, they were absolutely right and Non-Whites should be deported from the US.
    Would you even deport East Asians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    The founding father had a lot of flaws,, we cannot expect perfection from men of the 18th century. The country has progressed since 1790.
    No doubt, they could have expected perfection from us stellar specimens of the 21st. While I do believe in an absolute morality, much of what we deem immoral (or moral) is a product of our age.

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