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Thread: The Genetic study of Peloponnese is a pseudoscientific study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keraunos View Post
    Why do people even reply to these threads? Just let him bump them like a loner next time.
    Lol, exactly why you bump this thread?
    I have to repeat, here you are in a forum, learn to behave like a normal person. If you don't agree with something or with everything, the best way is to explain your point view. With this kind of posts you just only confirm that i am right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios View Post
    The study may be flawed,
    Great. I think we are moving in the right direction, slowly but steadily.

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    Man this labradog is really shaming the rest of us Albanians..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catholic Riffs View Post
    Man this labradog is really shaming the rest of us Albanians..
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    it's easy if you are not an imbecile. You don't need to test them to ancient Hellenes, you just need to test them against modern Slavs- either East, West, or South. The one flaw of the study is of course that it assumes that Slav-speakers that entered the Peloponesse were exactly identical to modern Poles and Russians, which is pretty obviously not true.

    BTW these population movements that affected dark age Morea also affected dark age Epirus, including South Albania.


    Here is a translation:

    In the fourth year of his reign [reign of Nicephorus] took place the transfer of Patras of the Peloponnesus, our country, from the Calabrian city of Rhegium to the
    ancient city of Patras. For it had been driven away or rather forced to migrate by the nation of the Slavs when they invaded the First and Second Thessaly and in addition the country of the Aeniantes and that of the Locrians, both the Epiknemidian and
    Ozolians, and also ancient Epirus, Attica and Euboea and the Peloponnesus, driving away and destroying the noble Hellenic nations.

    Arethas of Caesarea- 932 AD.

    So you've got Hellenes in Epirus and Peloponnese, replaced by Slavs, then replaced again by Calabrian Greeks who are supposedly the ancestors of those earlier Hellenes. You may doubt the sources, but a witless worm such as yourself is in no position to question them if he is going to do so in such abjectly poor faith.

    So if there is no Greek continuity, there certainly isn't any Albanian one either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios View Post
    it's easy if you are not an imbecile. You don't need to test them to ancient Hellenes, you just need to test them against modern Slavs- either East, West, or South. The one flaw of the study is of course that it assumes that Slav-speakers that entered the Peloponesse were exactly identical to modern Poles and Russians, which is pretty obviously not true.
    Scholarios, here we are talking about a group of persons, not about hellenes, etc. Nobody asked to test ancient Hellenes. The problem is that we don`t know if the individuals tested are descendants of the same people who lived in Peleponessus when the slavs wiped the ancient greeks. This group of persons maybe are descendants of the people who settled later in the Peninsula, in the next 1.300 years. Brennus gave an great contribution and we proved quoting greek authors that only in one case, in less that 30 years, more that 50% of the population of Peloponessus was replaced by other people. If these individuals are not descendants of the people who lived in Peloponessus during the Slavic invasion, why we have to test them? It`s like testing you in order to prove events that happened in your Island, Chios, prior the settlement of the cumans. Only an imbecile can not understand such a simple concept.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios View Post
    BTW these population movements that affected dark age Morea also affected dark age Epirus, including South Albania.


    Here is a translation:

    In the fourth year of his reign [reign of Nicephorus] took place the transfer of Patras of the Peloponnesus, our country, from the Calabrian city of Rhegium to the
    ancient city of Patras. For it had been driven away or rather forced to migrate by the nation of the Slavs when they invaded the First and Second Thessaly and in addition the country of the Aeniantes and that of the Locrians, both the Epiknemidian and
    Ozolians, and also ancient Epirus, Attica and Euboea and the Peloponnesus, driving away and destroying the noble Hellenic nations.

    Arethas of Caesarea- 932 AD.

    So you've got Hellenes in Epirus and Peloponnese, replaced by Slavs, then replaced against by Calabrian Greeks who are supposedly the ancestors of those earlier Hellenes. You may doubt the sources, but a witless worm such as yourself is in no position to question them if he is going to do so in such abjectly poor faith.

    So if there is no Greek continuity, there certainly isn't any Albanian one either.
    This is your usuall crap. We have discussed this and i have crushed your cuman scull.
    Please stay on topic. We are not discussing about the genetics of Albanians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    Scholarios, here we are talking about a group of persons, not about hellenes, etc. Nobody asked to test ancient Hellenes. The problem is that we don`t know if the individuals tested are descendants of the same people who lived in Peleponessus when the slavs wiped the ancient greeks. This group of persons maybe are descendants of the people who settled later in the Peninsula, in the next 1.300 years. Brennus gave an great contribution and we proved quoting greek authors that only in one case, in less that 30 years, more that 50% of the population of Peloponessus was replaced by other people. If these individuals are not descendants of the people who lived in Peloponessus during the Slavic invasion, why we have to test them? It`s like testing you in order to prove events that happened in your Island, Chios, prior the settlement of the cumans. Only an imbecile can not understand such a simple concept.


    This is your usuall crap. We have discussed this and i have crushed your cuman scull.
    Please stay on topic. We are not discussing about the genetics of Albanians.
    So far only you perceived such a percentage due to your cognitive problems no source ever mentioned such numbers

    The discussion occupies all of the previous pages anyone can have a look at it

    And as I said you are much retarded to understand the purpose of the study, which is not that modern Peloponessians are directed descendants of ancient ones, but that they have limited Slavic or anatolian ancestry

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