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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    And many people have actually hurt themselves by using Chinese electrical appliances.
    As compared to what? Most all electrical appliances are made in China. Now, an increasingly number of Chinese brands are becoming the world's leaders. No one gets hurt by say Argentinian electrical appliances because they manufacture none.

    Trust me, most of the members here would be blown away if they traveled to China and see the level of development here. Yet they'll say China makes nothing but junk on the internet. Laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadefire View Post
    In the 70s Japanese stuff was "junk" , in the 90s Korean stuff was just knockoffs, and now its the chinese stuff that lack in quality even though literally everything people use on a daily basis gets made in China. This is just people being insecure as usual.
    And literally everything we use on a daily basis that's manufactured in China is crap, including this macbook I'm using.

    Comparing Japanese quality control to Chinese quality control is like comparing American made automobiles to German Audis.

    (Although to be fair General Motors and Ford have sort of stepped up their game in recent years)

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    If people buy Chinese goods it's because the Chinese manage to make them at low prices with sufficient quality for its worldwide customers, otherwise people would buy these goods from other countries. In Nature, whoever survives wins. In business, whoever sells the most wins. That's just how it is...

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    Made in China crap, nothing to be surprised here, these guys should be reminded that they put other at risk, they can do whatever they like with their own but not with others however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    As compared to what? Most all electrical appliances are made in China. Now, an increasingly number of Chinese brands are becoming the world's leaders. No one gets hurt by say Argentinian electrical appliances because they manufacture none.

    Trust me, most of the members here would be blown away if they traveled to China and see the level of development here. Yet they'll say China makes nothing but junk on the internet. Laughable.
    Bro, don't want to say I told you so but I told you so. China is still catching up! (Plus it's true, people have been harmed by Chinese products)

    Alright I was just teasing you there

    Building a reputation for quality takes time and for countries like China especially, the right geopolitical environment. Most people still consider Japan having higher quality and being technologically more advanced than South Korea for instance. And some people will say that Norway is more technologically advanced in the robotics and automobile sector than Japan and you can't convince them otherwise. That's just how people are like.

    Do remember that people will have their own opinion. China could be the most advanced country in the world and you'll still have lots of people who'll deny this. It's only natural and honestly a waste of time to attempt changing their minds.

    Remember, Actual performance > popular opinion. What's more important is for China to reach that level and improve the living standards of their people and quality of their own products. Chinese are getting there and will get there eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fractal View Post
    And literally everything we use on a daily basis that's manufactured in China is crap, including this macbook I'm using.

    Comparing Japanese quality control to Chinese quality control is like comparing American made automobiles to German Audis.


    (Although to be fair General Motors and Ford have sort of stepped up their game in recent years)
    Not anymore. Chinese smartphone brands are way better than any Japanese brands. What are the Japanese equivalents to Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, etc? Hisense, Haier are all at Japanese levels and are increasing their global footprint, they are already among the world's largest electronics makers. Lenovo is the world's biggest computer maker.

    Where are the Japanese equivalents to DJI, BYD, Baidu, Alibaba, Tencent? Where is Japan vis a vis China in core technologies such as space exploration, supercomputers, jet manufacturing, AI? Nowhere, that's where. They literally have little to no footprint compared to China.

    Your perceptions, as well as most other peoples, are stuck in the 90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domare View Post
    If people buy Chinese goods it's because the Chinese manage to make them at low prices with sufficient quality for its worldwide customers, otherwise people would buy these goods from other countries. In Nature, whoever survives wins. In business, whoever sells the most wins. That's just how it is...
    That's changing fast. Chinese companies are quickly becoming the world's best. This will become much more the case in the next 5-10 years, they are climbing up the ladder very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiji View Post
    Bro, don't want to say I told you so but I told you so. China is still catching up! (Plus it's true, people have been harmed by Chinese products)

    Alright I was just teasing you there

    Building a reputation for quality takes time and for countries like China especially, the right geopolitical environment. Most people still consider Japan having higher quality and being technologically more advanced than South Korea for instance. And some people will say that Norway is more technologically advanced in the robotics and automobile sector than Japan and you can't convince them otherwise. That's just how people are like.

    Do remember that people will have their own opinion. China could be the most advanced country in the world and you'll still have lots of people who'll deny this. It's only natural and honestly a waste of time to attempt changing their minds.

    Remember, Actual performance > popular opinion. What's more important is for China to reach that level and improve the living standards of their people and quality of their own products. Chinese are getting there and will get there eventually.
    Yeah obviously, perceptions change slowly. The ground reality has shifted massively though, people are just starting to notice it. Chinese industry is moving up the ladder and becoming top innovators globally very fast. In ten years, they won't just be at the same levels as other countries, they will SURPASS most other countries and become the world's BEST. I'm not exaggerating either.

    It's funny that Chinese products get bashed by countries that produce nothing or have no industries and nothing going for it. While China has massive capital and resources and is literally the most ambitious nation in moving up the ladder of industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Not anymore. Chinese smartphone brands are way better than any Japanese brands. What are the Japanese equivalents to Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, etc? Hisense, Haier are all at Japanese levels and are increasing their global footprint, they are already among the world's largest electronics makers. Lenovo is the world's biggest computer maker.

    Your perceptions, as well as most other peoples, are stuck in the 90s.
    Interesting. What about Chinese automobiles? I know they're tapping into that market too.

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