Sources about the Bulgarians descending from the Thracians

[Bulg]

not only “influence” also you have Turkic Bolgar ancestors.

"we have"?only some have..
the average and most bulgarians don't.

[itilvolga]

"we have"?only some have..
the average and most bulgarians don't.

Anyway still Bulgarians have it even if only partly and it’s much more than an influence

[Bulg]

Anyway still Bulgarians have it even if only partly and it’s much more than an influence

No we dont, the turkic bulgars were an elite minority which was assimilated over a thousand years ago.Not one bulgarian is related to them.

[Bulg]

Anyway still Bulgarians have it even if only partly and it’s much more than an influence

we don't, those who have it are bulgarian turks, get your turan fantasy out of here.

[Pahli]

Anyway still Bulgarians have it even if only partly and it’s much more than an influence

Bulgarians barely have any East Eurasian which either means Turkic Bulgars were an elite over a mixed non-Turkic people consisting of Iranians and Slavs and probably also Turkics, or that the Turkic Bulgars barely had any Mongoloid which would be very surprising for a Turkic steppe entity. So their Turkic Bulgar ancestry is kinda questionable.

[itilvolga]

we don't, those who have it are bulgarian turks, get your turan fantasy out of here.

Who da heck said that we want Bulgaria in Turan

[itilvolga]

Bulgarians barely have any East Eurasian which either means Turkic Bulgars were an elite over a mixed non-Turkic people consisting of Iranians and Slavs and probably also Turkics, or that the Turkic Bulgars barely had any Mongoloid which would be very surprising for a Turkic steppe entity. So their Turkic Bulgar ancestry is kinda questionable.

Being less Mongoloid doesn’t make Bolgars less Turkic, still some of Bulgarians have Turkic Bolgar ancestry for sure

[Pahli]

Being less Mongoloid doesn’t make Bolgars less Turkic, still some of Bulgarians have Turkic Bolgar ancestry for sure

Mongoloid admixture is an important detail in tracing Turkic ancestry, but I don't disagree in the fact that some Bulgarians might have Turkic Bulgar ancestry, most however don't show it

[ioan assen]

Bulgarians barely have any East Eurasian which either means Turkic Bulgars were an elite over a mixed non-Turkic people consisting of Iranians and Slavs and probably also Turkics, or that the Turkic Bulgars barely had any Mongoloid which would be very surprising for a Turkic steppe entity. So their Turkic Bulgar ancestry is kinda questionable.

That's true. Most probably the Bulgars of Asparuch were mixed people as you say: Turkics, Slavic and Iranian. Even Asparuch name is of a clear Iranian origin (meaning White Rider). They came from what is today Ukraine which was slavized already at the time so noway there weren't Antes with them.
Genetically the Bulgarians I think descend mainly from the Thracians which were probably first Romanized them Slavicized (due in part to the Bulgarian state). However the fact we are so close to the Romanians genetically is a proоf enough. Plus I ve read a book with medieval Vatican sources on the Bulgarians where we were like always grouped with the Vlachs... Every fucking source talked about Bulgarians and Vlachs and it was like they thought we are some closely related ppl.

[Pahli]

That's true. Most probably the Bulgars of Asparuch were mixed people as you say: Turkics, Slavic and Iranian. Even Asparuch name is of a clear Iranian origin (meaning White Rider). They came from what is today Ukraine which was slavized already at the time so noway there weren't Antes with them.
Genetically the Bulgarians I think descend mainly from the Thracians which were probably first Romanized them Slavicized (due in part to the Bulgarian state). However the fact we are so close to the Romanians genetically is a proоf enough. Plus I ve read a book with medieval Vatican sources on the Bulgarians where we were like always grouped with the Vlachs... Every fucking source talked about Bulgarians and Vlachs and it was like they thought we are some closely related ppl.

There's two possible meanings to his name;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asparukh_(name)

And somehow the Bulgarian dialect differs a bit from Serbo-Croatian, so I'm wondering what kind of linguistic influence it has from other non-Slavic languages.