Which Poland do you prefer?

[Rethel]

1. Piastic Poland - acually corn native polish lands with some german minority
(eventually added Galicia and some other western slavic lands like Slovakia),
Piast patrimonial private dynasty, and the very polish, warm homish identity
of local slavic original polishness or even polanishness.

2. Nobility's Poland - large state including everything as far as the Moscow, Tallin
and Bucharest, (plus legal rights for everything what was ever piast's, vasa's and
yagiellonian own lands from Berlin to Budapest and Zagreb from Stockholm through
Helsingfors and Novgorod and Ural to Syberia) with Noble sarmatian ruling national
class, elective monarchy and lack of slavic polish earthbound identity, replaced by
sarmatian polishness of Herrenvolk, which means including nobles of every lingustic
group of the described area possible.

What would you choose?

[Veslan]

Piasts. Especially all kings named "Bolesław" were great.

[Rethel]

It could be looking like that.

1. Piast' Kingdom:

Three dark green colours core main land.
The darkest - classical Piast Poland.
Middle dark - ethnic polish territory.
Light dark - other piastic and later piastic-polish possessions at the end of royal line.
Willow-green - other piastic closly ethnically west slavic possessions and claims.
Lightest green - Vassals and possible claims.
Light green dots - possible sphere of influence.

2. Szlachta's Republic:

Dark Green - territorial core, based on historical polish sarmatian teritorrial development.
Very dark green - possibl core claims based on piastic polish crown inheritance rights.
Willow-green - other possible claims - pskovian and novogrodian republics, once shortly bind with the Crown.
Light green - claims based on unions and inherited right's of former dynasties.


Polska 1 Piast's Kingdom.png
Polska 2 Nobility's Republic.png

[Veslan]

It could be looking like that.

1. Piast' Kingdom:

Three dark green colours core main land.
The darkest - classical Piast Poland.
Middle dark - ethnic polish territory.
Light dark - other piastic and later piastic-polish possessions at the end of royal line.
Willow-green - other piastic closly ethnically west slavic possessions and claims.
Lightest green - Vassals and possible claims.
Light green dots - possible sphere of influence.

2. Szlachta's Republic:

Dark Green - territorial core, based on historical polish sarmatian teritorrial development.
Very dark green - possibl core claims based on piastic polish crown inheritance rights.
Willow-green - other possible claims - pskovian and novogrodian republics, once shortly bind with the Crown.
Light green - claims based on unions and inherited right's of former dynasties.


Polska 1 Piast's Kingdom.png
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Polska 2 Nobility's Republic.png

What was Commonwealth's claim on East Germany?

[Rethel]

What was Commonwealth's claim on East Germany?

I allready wrote: possibl core claims based on piastic polish crown inheritance rights.

Respublica was always reffereing to the piastic crown rights, so it can be enlarged to
other piastic possessions, not only to Silesia, as it was most commnly spoken. Btw, on
Sloviakia many szlachtamen had their possessions, Crown owned the Spisz, and Republic
was in union with the Saxony and was giving to the Wettin Family some special rights - as
far as inheritable crown, so, this is some special bond. Vorpommern it is obvious. Czechlands
and Hungolia - by the occasion, and piastic + yagiellonian inheritance, and the very union with
Transylvania which included then hungarian and slovakian lands.

[Rethel]

Czechlands

And in the Middle Ages the Czechlands had the same knight's clans
as Poland, what gave the origin of many theories and speculations in
older literature. Even the nobililogic terminoligy is basically the same.
So, they could and should be a part of Szlachta's Republic as they
are basically naturarly exactly the same people.

[Jana]

I prefer Lesser Poland to return it's ancient name - White Croatia

[Rethel]

I prefer Lesser Poland to return it's ancient name - White Croatia

Probably never had it.

[Jana]

Probably never had it.

Very likely yes.

EUCHARISTIC CELEBRATION FOR THE CROAT NATIONAL PILGRIMAGE

HOMILY OF HIS HOLINESS JOHN PAUL II


30 April 1979

Dear brothers in the Episcopate,
Dear priests, men and women religious,
Dear sons and daughters of "ever faithful" Croatia!

Do you remember "White Croatia", your land of origin, which is just where my native land is?

[Rethel]

Very likely yes.

EUCHARISTIC CELEBRATION FOR THE CROAT NATIONAL PILGRIMAGE

HOMILY OF HIS HOLINESS JOHN PAUL II


30 April 1979

Is this the proof?