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    Default How related are you to Germanic peoples?

    Including but not limited to -- Norse, Anglo, Saxon, German, Frank, Germanic Slav, Slavic German, etc.

    Post your results using:

    1.) this K36 Similarity Tool
    http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

    2.) Eurogenes K13

    Additional tools and calculators welcome.

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    Closest Result:

    1 – Schleswig-Holstein, North German (91)
    2 – Dutch (90)
    3 – Dane (89)
    4 – South Swede (88)
    5 – West Scot (87)


    Eurogenes K13:
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    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_German 2.73
    2 Danish 4.8
    3 North_Dutch 4.83
    4 South_Dutch 6.08
    5 West_German 6.09
    6 Southeast_English 6.27
    7 Orcadian 6.28
    8 Norwegian 6.34
    9 Swedish 6.7
    10 Irish 7.09
    11 West_Scottish 7.92
    12 Southwest_English 8.12
    13 Austrian 9.06
    14 East_German 9.67
    15 North_Swedish 11.38
    16 French 12.38
    17 Hungarian 13.39
    18 Southwest_Finnish 18.53
    19 Croatian 18.92
    20 Serbian 19.11

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85.8% Norwegian + 14.2% Central_Greek @ 1.38
    2 83.7% Norwegian + 16.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.5
    3 89.6% Norwegian + 10.4% Cyprian @ 1.62
    4 86.2% Norwegian + 13.8% East_Sicilian @ 1.64
    5 83.2% North_Dutch + 16.8% Romanian @ 1.64
    6 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.65
    7 84.9% North_Dutch + 15.1% Bulgarian @ 1.66
    8 86.9% Norwegian + 13.1% South_Italian @ 1.67
    9 80.6% Norwegian + 19.4% Bulgarian @ 1.68
    10 78.6% Norwegian + 21.4% Romanian @ 1.72
    11 80.9% North_Dutch + 19.1% Serbian @ 1.75
    12 74.1% North_German + 25.9% West_German @ 1.82
    13 92.6% North_German + 7.4% North_Italian @ 1.85
    14 93.8% North_German + 6.2% Tuscan @ 1.89
    15 94.6% North_German + 5.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.91
    16 95.1% North_German + 4.9% Central_Greek @ 1.92
    17 95.5% North_German + 4.5% South_Italian @ 1.93
    18 75% North_German + 25% South_Dutch @ 1.94
    19 94.9% North_German + 5.1% West_Sicilian @ 1.95
    20 96.3% North_German + 3.7% Sardinian @ 1.96

    Oracle 4
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swedish +50% West_German @ 2.312482


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Serbian +25% West_Scottish @ 1.783915


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
    1 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.783879
    2 Norwegian + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.783915
    3 Norwegian + Norwegian + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 1.839692
    4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.859962
    5 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Romanian @ 1.868723
    6 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.872691
    7 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.945947
    8 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.950678
    9 North_German + North_German + North_German + West_German @ 1.950924
    10 Danish + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.983697
    11 Irish + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 2.052722
    12 Hungarian + Irish + North_Dutch + North_German @ 2.084374
    13 Hungarian + North_Dutch + North_German + West_Scottish @ 2.088105
    14 Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 2.090521
    15 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 2.095659
    16 Hungarian + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 2.105327
    17 Irish + Serbian + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.114246
    18 Hungarian + Irish + North_German + Orcadian @ 2.117130
    19 Austrian + Irish + North_German + North_German @ 2.121321
    20 North_German + North_German + North_German + South_Dutch @ 2.124452

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arduti View Post


    Closest Result:

    1 – Schleswig-Holstein, North German (91)
    2 – Dutch (90)
    3 – Dane (89)
    4 – South Swede (88)
    5 – West Scot (87)


    Eurogenes K13:
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    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_German 2.73
    2 Danish 4.8
    3 North_Dutch 4.83
    4 South_Dutch 6.08
    5 West_German 6.09
    6 Southeast_English 6.27
    7 Orcadian 6.28
    8 Norwegian 6.34
    9 Swedish 6.7
    10 Irish 7.09
    11 West_Scottish 7.92
    12 Southwest_English 8.12
    13 Austrian 9.06
    14 East_German 9.67
    15 North_Swedish 11.38
    16 French 12.38
    17 Hungarian 13.39
    18 Southwest_Finnish 18.53
    19 Croatian 18.92
    20 Serbian 19.11

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85.8% Norwegian + 14.2% Central_Greek @ 1.38
    2 83.7% Norwegian + 16.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.5
    3 89.6% Norwegian + 10.4% Cyprian @ 1.62
    4 86.2% Norwegian + 13.8% East_Sicilian @ 1.64
    5 83.2% North_Dutch + 16.8% Romanian @ 1.64
    6 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.65
    7 84.9% North_Dutch + 15.1% Bulgarian @ 1.66
    8 86.9% Norwegian + 13.1% South_Italian @ 1.67
    9 80.6% Norwegian + 19.4% Bulgarian @ 1.68
    10 78.6% Norwegian + 21.4% Romanian @ 1.72
    11 80.9% North_Dutch + 19.1% Serbian @ 1.75
    12 74.1% North_German + 25.9% West_German @ 1.82
    13 92.6% North_German + 7.4% North_Italian @ 1.85
    14 93.8% North_German + 6.2% Tuscan @ 1.89
    15 94.6% North_German + 5.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.91
    16 95.1% North_German + 4.9% Central_Greek @ 1.92
    17 95.5% North_German + 4.5% South_Italian @ 1.93
    18 75% North_German + 25% South_Dutch @ 1.94
    19 94.9% North_German + 5.1% West_Sicilian @ 1.95
    20 96.3% North_German + 3.7% Sardinian @ 1.96

    Oracle 4
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swedish +50% West_German @ 2.312482


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Serbian +25% West_Scottish @ 1.783915


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
    1 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.783879
    2 Norwegian + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.783915
    3 Norwegian + Norwegian + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 1.839692
    4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.859962
    5 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Romanian @ 1.868723
    6 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.872691
    7 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.945947
    8 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.950678
    9 North_German + North_German + North_German + West_German @ 1.950924
    10 Danish + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.983697
    11 Irish + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 2.052722
    12 Hungarian + Irish + North_Dutch + North_German @ 2.084374
    13 Hungarian + North_Dutch + North_German + West_Scottish @ 2.088105
    14 Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 2.090521
    15 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 2.095659
    16 Hungarian + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 2.105327
    17 Irish + Serbian + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.114246
    18 Hungarian + Irish + North_German + Orcadian @ 2.117130
    19 Austrian + Irish + North_German + North_German @ 2.121321
    20 North_German + North_German + North_German + South_Dutch @ 2.124452
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norb View Post
    I get weird results considering my YDNA

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    I'm wondering how accurate some of the Gedmatch results are? I know I'm hyper Irish but on the K13 my no 1 pop if North Dutch. I don't identify as Germanic and I know I'm not Germanic but it's very blurred. Anyway here is my K13 results and my K36 map. I know that Irish haven't had a lot of Germanic influx but they are very close to Germanics. I don't know whether this is a big divide between Celtics and Germanics.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 52.04
    2 Baltic 25.27
    3 West_Med 9.81
    4 West_Asian 7.25
    5 East_Med 1.77
    6 Red_Sea 1.50
    7 Amerindian 1.38


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_Dutch @ 3.343981
    2 Irish @ 3.397813
    3 West_Scottish @ 4.026271
    4 Norwegian @ 4.042346
    5 Orcadian @ 4.244986
    6 Danish @ 4.289660
    7 North_German @ 6.192955
    8 Southeast_English @ 6.842666
    9 Southwest_English @ 6.901150
    10 Swedish @ 7.318733
    11 South_Dutch @ 11.629003
    12 West_German @ 12.655422
    13 North_Swedish @ 14.482445
    14 Austrian @ 17.549162
    15 East_German @ 17.693420
    16 French @ 18.062477
    17 Hungarian @ 22.544872
    18 Southwest_Finnish @ 23.876503
    19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 26.292759
    20 Southwest_French @ 27.316259

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 2.522953


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 2.522953


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
    1 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.519424
    2 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.522953
    3 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.540311
    4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.548502
    5 Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.564251
    6 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.622005
    7 North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.648387
    8 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.664680
    9 Irish + North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.680890
    10 Danish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.683445
    11 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.695799
    12 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.721051
    13 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.729033
    14 Danish + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.747781
    15 Irish + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.753577
    16 Irish + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 2.764748
    17 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.766720
    18 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.767802
    19 Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.767981
    20 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 2.775764



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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 South_Dutch @ 5.880609
    2 Southeast_English @ 6.284259
    3 North_German @ 6.430423
    4 Orcadian @ 6.765821
    5 North_Dutch @ 6.828430
    6 Danish @ 7.133075
    7 Southwest_English @ 7.197622
    8 West_German @ 7.404508
    9 Irish @ 7.774065
    10 West_Scottish @ 8.598810
    11 Norwegian @ 8.838050
    12 Swedish @ 9.333991
    13 Austrian @ 11.334986
    14 East_German @ 11.534751
    15 French @ 12.031960
    16 North_Swedish @ 14.394736
    17 Hungarian @ 17.040543
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 20.267076
    19 Southwest_French @ 20.671741
    20 Spanish_Galicia @ 21.008188

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_German +50% Southwest_English @ 3.060713


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Southwest_Finnish +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.374558


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++
    1 French_Basque + North_German + Russian_Smolensk + West_Scottish @ 2.138976
    2 Croatian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.188787
    3 Danish + French_Basque + Russian_Smolensk + West_Scottish @ 2.198216
    4 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Russian_Smolensk @ 2.202538
    5 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Russian_Smolensk + West_Scottish @ 2.223692
    6 French_Basque + Irish + North_Dutch + Russian_Smolensk @ 2.246186
    7 French_Basque + Irish + North_German + Russian_Smolensk @ 2.264744
    8 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_Scottish @ 2.267777
    9 Irish + North_German + North_Swedish + Southwest_French @ 2.271003
    10 French_Basque + North_German + Polish + West_Scottish @ 2.277325
    11 Danish + French_Basque + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_Scottish @ 2.286394
    12 French_Basque + Irish + North_German + Polish @ 2.288271
    13 Belorussian + French_Basque + North_German + West_Scottish @ 2.306276
    14 North_German + Southwest_French + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.330873
    15 Belorussian + French_Basque + Irish + North_German @ 2.353904
    16 Irish + Irish + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.374558
    17 French_Basque + Norwegian + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_Scottish @ 2.375507
    18 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.378457
    19 Polish + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.383024
    20 French_Basque + Irish + North_Dutch + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.387594

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arduti View Post


    Closest Result:

    1 – Schleswig-Holstein, North German (91)
    2 – Dutch (90)
    3 – Dane (89)
    4 – South Swede (88)
    5 – West Scot (87)


    Eurogenes K13:
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    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_German 2.73
    2 Danish 4.8
    3 North_Dutch 4.83
    4 South_Dutch 6.08
    5 West_German 6.09
    6 Southeast_English 6.27
    7 Orcadian 6.28
    8 Norwegian 6.34
    9 Swedish 6.7
    10 Irish 7.09
    11 West_Scottish 7.92
    12 Southwest_English 8.12
    13 Austrian 9.06
    14 East_German 9.67
    15 North_Swedish 11.38
    16 French 12.38
    17 Hungarian 13.39
    18 Southwest_Finnish 18.53
    19 Croatian 18.92
    20 Serbian 19.11

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85.8% Norwegian + 14.2% Central_Greek @ 1.38
    2 83.7% Norwegian + 16.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.5
    3 89.6% Norwegian + 10.4% Cyprian @ 1.62
    4 86.2% Norwegian + 13.8% East_Sicilian @ 1.64
    5 83.2% North_Dutch + 16.8% Romanian @ 1.64
    6 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.65
    7 84.9% North_Dutch + 15.1% Bulgarian @ 1.66
    8 86.9% Norwegian + 13.1% South_Italian @ 1.67
    9 80.6% Norwegian + 19.4% Bulgarian @ 1.68
    10 78.6% Norwegian + 21.4% Romanian @ 1.72
    11 80.9% North_Dutch + 19.1% Serbian @ 1.75
    12 74.1% North_German + 25.9% West_German @ 1.82
    13 92.6% North_German + 7.4% North_Italian @ 1.85
    14 93.8% North_German + 6.2% Tuscan @ 1.89
    15 94.6% North_German + 5.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.91
    16 95.1% North_German + 4.9% Central_Greek @ 1.92
    17 95.5% North_German + 4.5% South_Italian @ 1.93
    18 75% North_German + 25% South_Dutch @ 1.94
    19 94.9% North_German + 5.1% West_Sicilian @ 1.95
    20 96.3% North_German + 3.7% Sardinian @ 1.96

    Oracle 4
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swedish +50% West_German @ 2.312482


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Serbian +25% West_Scottish @ 1.783915


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
    1 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.783879
    2 Norwegian + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.783915
    3 Norwegian + Norwegian + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 1.839692
    4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.859962
    5 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Romanian @ 1.868723
    6 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.872691
    7 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.945947
    8 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.950678
    9 North_German + North_German + North_German + West_German @ 1.950924
    10 Danish + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.983697
    11 Irish + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 2.052722
    12 Hungarian + Irish + North_Dutch + North_German @ 2.084374
    13 Hungarian + North_Dutch + North_German + West_Scottish @ 2.088105
    14 Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 2.090521
    15 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 2.095659
    16 Hungarian + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 2.105327
    17 Irish + Serbian + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.114246
    18 Hungarian + Irish + North_German + Orcadian @ 2.117130
    19 Austrian + Irish + North_German + North_German @ 2.121321
    20 North_German + North_German + North_German + South_Dutch @ 2.124452
    You failed this thread, I removed my results, you won't even post your K13.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arduti View Post


    Closest Result:

    1 – Schleswig-Holstein, North German (91)
    2 – Dutch (90)
    3 – Dane (89)
    4 – South Swede (88)
    5 – West Scot (87)


    Eurogenes K13:
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    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_German 2.73
    2 Danish 4.8
    3 North_Dutch 4.83
    4 South_Dutch 6.08
    5 West_German 6.09
    6 Southeast_English 6.27
    7 Orcadian 6.28
    8 Norwegian 6.34
    9 Swedish 6.7
    10 Irish 7.09
    11 West_Scottish 7.92
    12 Southwest_English 8.12
    13 Austrian 9.06
    14 East_German 9.67
    15 North_Swedish 11.38
    16 French 12.38
    17 Hungarian 13.39
    18 Southwest_Finnish 18.53
    19 Croatian 18.92
    20 Serbian 19.11

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85.8% Norwegian + 14.2% Central_Greek @ 1.38
    2 83.7% Norwegian + 16.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.5
    3 89.6% Norwegian + 10.4% Cyprian @ 1.62
    4 86.2% Norwegian + 13.8% East_Sicilian @ 1.64
    5 83.2% North_Dutch + 16.8% Romanian @ 1.64
    6 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.65
    7 84.9% North_Dutch + 15.1% Bulgarian @ 1.66
    8 86.9% Norwegian + 13.1% South_Italian @ 1.67
    9 80.6% Norwegian + 19.4% Bulgarian @ 1.68
    10 78.6% Norwegian + 21.4% Romanian @ 1.72
    11 80.9% North_Dutch + 19.1% Serbian @ 1.75
    12 74.1% North_German + 25.9% West_German @ 1.82
    13 92.6% North_German + 7.4% North_Italian @ 1.85
    14 93.8% North_German + 6.2% Tuscan @ 1.89
    15 94.6% North_German + 5.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.91
    16 95.1% North_German + 4.9% Central_Greek @ 1.92
    17 95.5% North_German + 4.5% South_Italian @ 1.93
    18 75% North_German + 25% South_Dutch @ 1.94
    19 94.9% North_German + 5.1% West_Sicilian @ 1.95
    20 96.3% North_German + 3.7% Sardinian @ 1.96

    Oracle 4
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swedish +50% West_German @ 2.312482


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Serbian +25% West_Scottish @ 1.783915


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
    1 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.783879
    2 Norwegian + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.783915
    3 Norwegian + Norwegian + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 1.839692
    4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.859962
    5 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Romanian @ 1.868723
    6 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.872691
    7 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.945947
    8 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + Serbian @ 1.950678
    9 North_German + North_German + North_German + West_German @ 1.950924
    10 Danish + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.983697
    11 Irish + Norwegian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 2.052722
    12 Hungarian + Irish + North_Dutch + North_German @ 2.084374
    13 Hungarian + North_Dutch + North_German + West_Scottish @ 2.088105
    14 Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 2.090521
    15 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 2.095659
    16 Hungarian + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 2.105327
    17 Irish + Serbian + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.114246
    18 Hungarian + Irish + North_German + Orcadian @ 2.117130
    19 Austrian + Irish + North_German + North_German @ 2.121321
    20 North_German + North_German + North_German + South_Dutch @ 2.124452
    She won't show it, this is getting boring.
    Last edited by MagnusAurelius; 11-12-2017 at 08:06 AM.

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