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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    No, some I2a1 clades such as I2a1a which is the native Med I2 common in Sardinians and I2a1b-L161.1 which is found in NW European countries aren't Slavic although the I2a1b clades carried by modern day Slavs are Slavic
    What is the case for I2 in southern Albania or Tosks in general?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Perhaps you could send them Ydna testing kits if they accept to testing. I personally just bought a Y37 kit from Ftdna to test my mothers paternal cousin as Ftdna have a sale going on right now
    Ok my grandfathers sister officially moved to Petrozavodsk.

    My grandmother's last name is volkova before being married. Her sister moved to mordovia. I am probably karelian/mordvin haplogroup

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalkanTurk View Post
    What is the case for I2 in southern Albania or Tosks in general?
    I2 in southern Albania or Albania in general is the slavic I2a1b-Din clade which came to the Albanians via Slavs and Aromanians/Vlachs who got assimilated by the Albanian population
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I2 in southern Albania or Albania in general is the slavic I2a1b-Din clade which came to the Albanians via Slavs and Aromanians/Vlachs who got assimilated by the Albanian population
    Interesting. Any idea on how Ghegs remained "pure" while Tosks assimilated some peoples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by welder0 View Post
    Ok my grandfathers sister officially moved to Petrozavodsk.

    My grandmother's last name is volkova before being married. Her sister moved to mordovia. I am probably karelian/mordvin haplogroup
    Your Russian side looks to be regularly Russian, no extra Uralic admixture.
    I'm pretty sure you would be very close to Czechs and Slovaks if there were such samples in the Eurogenes database. Belorussian (pure Russian, no extra Siberian admixture) + Dutch or English is pretty much Central European.
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    Typical Uzbek haplogroup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalkanTurk View Post
    Interesting. Any idea on how Ghegs remained "pure" while Tosks assimilated some peoples?
    Ghegs only have around 1-3% I2 afaik and the reason why they have less is because I2 carriers in northern Albania didn't reproduce as much males as the other people whilst in south Albania they did reproduce a bit more males to carry on the haplogroup(although I2 is still not a majority haplogroup in south Albania) but just because a certain group has a haplogroup of different origin it doesn't mean they aren't "pure" in terms of autosomal dna.
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Ghegs only have around 1-3% I2 afaik and the reason why they have less is because I2 carriers in northern Albania didn't reproduce as much males as the other people whilst in south Albania they did reproduce a bit more males to carry on the haplogroup(although I2 is still not a majority haplogroup in south Albania) but just because a certain group has a haplogroup of different origin it doesn't mean they aren't "pure" in terms of autosomal dna.
    Nice. I found out with an autosomal DNA test my dad is part Tosk Albanian. My Y-DNA haplogroup is I2a1b3 according to some calculator but I think the clade's name's changed. The calculator was created in 2013 so quite some years have passed since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalkanTurk View Post
    Nice. I found out with an autosomal DNA test my dad is part Tosk Albanian. My Y-DNA haplogroup is I2a1b3 according to some calculator but I think the clade's name's changed. The calculator was created in 2013 so quite some years have passed since then.
    Interesting, how do you know it's Tosk/Albanian admix?
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Interesting, how do you know it's Tosk/Albanian admix?
    DNA matches. Lots of cousins from Berat, Gjirokaster, Skrapar etc.

    My 4th cousin is called "Ardit Zaimi" and he is also Bektashi like my dad's family.

    After all, it's already known millions of Turks have partial Albanian ancestry so I'm not surprised.

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