Randomguy1235's 23andme + GEDmatch results

[Gangrel]

He used to look down on North Africans too, and yet, he's maternally Maghrebi himself. It's ironic, indeed.

this guy is another owd cuck?

[Böri]

I mean, we vary genetically of course, but on average, Palestinians and other Muslim Levantines are more closer to Arabians and the Afro-Asiatic groups of Africa like Berbers and so on than to west Asiatic peoples like Persians, Turks and etc due to admixture, that's all.

There are no Persian reference data afaik. There are Iranian samples who happen to be closer to Turks than north Kurds are. North Kurds should actually be closer to Turks considering they are abit Turcoman-admixed. The only explanation is that Iranian sample isn't Persian or at least not fully but heavily Turkic-admixed person possibly even Azerbaijani.

[Hadouken]

There are no Persian reference data afaik. There are Iranian samples who happen to be closer to Turks than north Kurds are. North Kurds should actually be closer to Turks considering they are abit Turcoman-admixed. The only explanation is that Iranian sample isn't Persian or at least not fully but heavily Turkic-admixed person possibly even Azerbaijani.

I think it depends on the calculator also

for example the kurdish samples on gedrosia calculators are very dubious . I dont get them even in top 10 on some calculators there wtf

I guess the iranian samples also vary . I do think a lot of the samples are persian though . however likely not from the south or east that one is for sure because east iranians have a different shift if I remember right (I have seen such a result)

[randomguy1235]

You do realize that in populations like animals, most so-called "selection pressures" actually take like millions of years to actually do something. I mean for christ sake, you make it sound like different "races" are different species. Neanderthals and humans only split apart 400,000 years ago even after sharing a recent ancestor with humans as much as 1 million years ago. What makes you think that 10,000 yrs or even 50,000 years contributed to anything significant? If intelligence was really varied among different populations of humans, then we'd see it among different populations of other species as well, but we don't. Come on dude, I thought you're a medical student. This is General Biology II info.

I'm sorry, but this is some of dumbest stuff I've read in a while. Bro, selection pressures and mutational adaptations have nothing to do with a fixed/predetermined amount of time. Various branches of fauna exhibit radically different gestation and adaptation rates, so it's fallacious to try and equate their cycles to ours and vice versa. Take for example some species of bacteria in a petri dish: Their selection pressures (exposure to substance with antibacterial properties) and subsequent adaptation can take as little as a couple of days, no need for millions of years.

It has been shown over and over again (especially when comparing IQ scores of African immigrants vs African Americans or comparing a black and white person of the same economic class), that iq differences largely stem from oppression and social issues. There are also tests meant to measure intelligence where chimpanzees have performed better on average than humans did. Does this mean that chimpanzees are more intelligent than humans? According to your logic, it does.

Nope. Comparing the brightest, highly stratified group of immigrants with the average of their host society = Bad reasoning. Just because a 100 IQ Nigerian immigrates to the U.S. doesn't negate the fact that the AVERAGE Nigerian still scores around 70 in terms of IQ.

[randomguy1235]

this guy is another owd cuck?

lol @ using an anti-intellectual term like OWD. No, I'm a Samaritan who's been accused of being non-indigenous/Arab by a number of posters here.

[Leto]

You do realize that in populations like animals, most so-called "selection pressures" actually take like millions of years to actually do something. I mean for christ sake, you make it sound like different "races" are different species. Neanderthals and humans only split apart 400,000 years ago even after sharing a recent ancestor with humans as much as 1 million years ago. What makes you think that 10,000 yrs or even 50,000 years contributed to anything significant? If intelligence was really varied among different populations of humans, then we'd see it among different populations of other species as well, but we don't. Come on dude, I thought you're a medical student. This is General Biology II info.



It has been shown over and over again (especially when comparing IQ scores of African immigrants vs African Americans or comparing a black and white person of the same economic class), that iq differences largely stem from oppression and social issues. There are also tests meant to measure intelligence where chimpanzees have performed better on average than humans did. Does this mean that chimpanzees are more intelligent than humans? According to your logic, it does.

You're an SJW, listen to Jordan Petersen and Charles Murray. I'm not saying IQ is everything, but to me it's obvious that people are not equal. Both inside a race and outside.

Spoiler!

[Myanthropologies]

I'm sorry, but this is some of dumbest stuff I've read in a while. Bro, selection pressures and mutational adaptations have nothing to do with a fixed/predetermined amount of time. Various branches of fauna exhibit radically different gestation and adaptation rates, so it's fallacious to try and equate their cycles to ours and vice versa. Take for example some species of bacteria in a petri dish: Their selection pressures (exposure to substance with antibacterial properties) and subsequent adaptation can take as little as a couple of days, no need for millions of years.





Nope. Comparing the brightest, highly stratified group of immigrants with the average of their host society = Bad reasoning. Just because a 100 IQ Nigerian immigrates to the U.S. doesn't negate the fact that the AVERAGE Nigerian still scores around 70 in terms of IQ.

We aren't bacteria though, we're mammals. The life history traits of mammals tend to be something between K and R selection, whereas bacteria are one of the few species that are strictly R shifted. They put all their energy into making abundant offspring and reproduce at younger ages, where as humans are larger, and put more of their energy into their own development instead of producing more offspring. Clearly humans and bacteria aren't under the same selection pressures, otherwise humans would be mutating as much as bacteria do. This is why divergence in mammals, especially divergence due to secular dispersal ONLY causes major genetic differences over millions of years.

And comparing the "brightest" Nigerian immigrants is fair because they have access to the same things upper class whites in America do, whereas in Nigeria they obviously don't. You can't compare upper class westerners to people in environments of developing countries. I don't understand why you believe that it is more fair to compare people in developing country conditions/poverty to upper class westerners than it is to compare them to black people in the same environmental conditions as the westerners. Your logic makes no sense at all. Just because they're "average," doesn't rule out the fact that their environmental factors are largely different.

[Myanthropologies]

You're an SJW, listen to Jordan Petersen and Charles Murray. I'm not saying IQ is everything, but to me it's obvious that people are not equal. Both inside a race and outside.

Spoiler!

I may be a liberal, but im educated in the field of biology and I'm a 4th year student at one of America's best public universities. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. My politics are shaped around my knowledge of science and society, NOT the other way around like you're implying.

[Anglojew]

More or less, yes! I did not do a Jtest

I thought you were a Samaritan remember?

You should do a JTest.

I hope you embrace your Israelite heritage. You're a descendant of Ephraim and Manasseh.

[frankhammer]

lol @ using an anti-intellectual term like OWD. No, I'm a Samaritan who's been accused of being non-indigenous/Arab by a number of posters here.

Welcome back.