Poland will not tolerate violation of Georgian border

[ЛыSSый]

do you support by any chance Silesian Autonomy Movement?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesi...onomy_Movement

or did you read this ---> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...eparatist-vote

aaa, fck, Vaasiliy, they all are putin's agents.

Have the business proposition: just invite some dozens my relatives there and they make there such situation so Germany will be happy even not claim Silesia independent, but pay reparations for it go away in any possible way.

[Nosferatu_]

Our politicians are way too obsessed with potential "Russian agression". Also Russia was clearly right in this conflict, South Ossetia has a right to be independent.

Why? So-called South Osettia_Samachablo is an ancient Georgian land(like Abkhazia)and those split-ups are always bad for the countries. Soon there will be no Georgian land left if things continue in this way. Mingrelians will also want to become independent,than maybe Svaneti,Racha,Guria and the other regions.Georgia(one of the oldest nation with one of the oldest history and culture) may won't exist at all in the future and there'll be tiny weak 'coutries' instead of it.(or Russian provinces) What did Abkhazians get after their ,,independance''? Did it become a nice,modern country?(which is controled by Russia even now) I have Osettian friends and acquaintances who live peacefully here.
Lets make all the regions and cities of the world independent,that must be fun
It's easy to judge from afar,when you're not a resident of the country and don't know how it feels when your country is losing its lands day by day.(especially for such a small nation)What would you say if it happened in your country?

[ЛыSSый]

Why? So-called South Osettia_Samachablo is an ancient Georgian land(like Abkhazia)and those split-ups are always bad for the countries. Soon there will be no Georgian land left if things continue in this way. Mingrelians will also want to become independent,than maybe Svaneti,Racha,Guria and the other regions.Georgia(one of the oldest nation with one of the oldest history and culture) may won't exist at all in the future and there'll be tiny weak 'coutries' instead of it.(or Russian provinces) What did Abkhazians get after their ,,independance''? Did it become a nice,modern country?(which is controled by Russia even now) I have Osettian friends and acquaintances who live peacefully here.
Lets make all the regions and cities of the world independent,that must be fun
It's easy to judge from afar,when you're not a resident of the country and don't know how it feels when your country is losing its lands day by day.(especially for such a small nation)What would you say if it happened in your country?

nonono, independence is great, isn't it?

[Rumata]

Imo, Abkhzia is about as much Georgia as Georgia itself is Russia. I see no point to destroy bigger empires just to create smaller ones.
The case of S. Ossetia might be different as S. Ossetians are more recent there.

[Ülev]

Poland’s Defense Minister Answers the Question: What Does Putin Want?
http://observer.com/2017/11/intervie...n-russia-nato/

[ЛыSSый]

Poland’s Defense Minister Answers the Question: What Does Putin Want?
http://observer.com/2017/11/intervie...n-russia-nato/

[Nosferatu_]

Imo, Abkhzia is about as much Georgia as Georgia itself is Russia. I see no point to destroy bigger empires just to create smaller ones.
The case of S. Ossetia might be different as S. Ossetians are more recent there.

Do you see those old maps? Abkhazia has always been one of the most important parts of Georgia.
Iberia isn't Georgia.Georgia is Ibero-Colchis

[Rumata]

Do you see those old maps? Abkhazia has always been one of the most important parts of Georgia.
Iberia isn't Georgia.Georgia is Ibero-Colchis

Spoiler!

You see, even not all of the maps that you've posted show Abkhazian and Georgian lands in the same political formation.
Moreover, it's not quite clear what was a part of what exactly:

Spoiler!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Abkhazia

And finally. Is the common past really a strong argument for common future? See maps of Polish-Lithuanian commonwelth. So according to this logic Poland now has rights on Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus?

[Nosferatu_]

You see, even not all of the maps that you've posted show Abkhazian and Georgian lands in the same political formation.
Moreover, it's not quite clear what was a part of what exactly:

All the maps I've posted show both Abkhazia and the other Georgian lands in the same political formation,(except one and in that time Georgian kingdom didn't even exist).And it clearly shows its big meaning to Sakartvelo

And finally. Is the common past really a strong argument for common future? See maps of Polish-Lithuanian commonwelth. So according to this logic Poland now has rights on Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus?

It's not an old history only.I grew up with the knowledge that Abkhazia was Georgia. Georgia is much smaller than Poland and Ukraine and probably it even won't exist in the future.


Georgians never had the sense of unity.That's our biggest minus and that's why we lose so many lands.Now even some Mingrelians want independance.p.s. Mingrelians are probably the largest group of Georgia.

Abkhazia and S.Osettia are only partially recognized states.(only Russia, Nicaragua, Venezuela & Nauru recognizes Abkhazia's independance )

[Rumata]

All the maps I've posted show both Abkhazia and the other Georgian lands in the same political formation,except one and in that time Georgian kingdom didn't even exist.

Two maps show them as different peoples at least.

Spoiler!

It's not an old history only.I grew up with the knowledge that Abkhazia was Georgia. Georgia is much smaller than Poland and Ukraine and probably it even won't exist in the future.

Well, I grew up with the knowledge that Georgian was a part of my country. What's the point And what about its size? What matters is Georgians and Abkhazians are different peoples which don't come to an agreement to live in the same country. Actually, less so than Ru and Ua do, but Vasiliy has a hard time to get it.

Georgians never had the sense of unity.That's our biggest minus and that's why we lose so many lands.

Actually, I'm yet to know about a Caucasian people which had a particular sense of unity (politically wise).
Concerning Mingrelians, I can't say much. Well, at least their language is Kartvelian too, unlike Abkhasian.