Who are the Turkic and Turkish people's ancestors?

[Impaler]

I see so many different types of Turks:

Gagauz, Bulgarians Turks, Dobrujan Tatars, Turks of Greece, Cypriot Turks, Anatolian Turks, Iraqi Turkomans and the Crimean Tatars. In Western Asia and the Northern Caucasus region, Azeris, Meskhetian Turks, Iranian Azeris, Khalaj, Qashqai, Iranian Turkmen, Balkar and Karachay, Nogay, and the Kumuk. In Central Asia theres Afghani Uzbeks, Afghani Turkmen, Uzbeks, Turkmen, Qazaqs, Karakalpaks, Kyrgyz, Uyghurs, Salars, Sari Yugurs. In the Volga Ural region there are Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvash, Siberian Tatars. In Southern Siberia there are Shors, Altay Kiji, Telengit, Teleut, Tuba, Kumandi, Chalkandu, Khakas, Tyvans, Tofa, Tsengel Tuvans and the Dukha. Finally in Northern Siberia and Easter China, Sakha, Dolgans and the Fuyu Kyrgyz.

Would be interesting to debate this thread.

[Mingle]

The ancestors of Proto-Turks were Mongoloids from the Lake Baikal region.

The ancestors of Turkish folk from Turkey were mostly Anatolian Caucasoids.

Btw, you missed the Meskhetian/Ahiska Turks. But otherwise, you seemed to have gotten them them all (excluding extinct groups).

[Impaler]

The ancestors of Proto-Turks were Mongoloids from the Lake Baikal region.

The ancestors of Turkish folk from Turkey were mostly Anatolian Caucasoids.

Btw, you missed the Meskhetian/Ahiska Turks. But otherwise, you seemed to have gotten them them all (excluding extinct groups).

Yeah, thank you for the observation!

[Marmara]

These are Turkic people, not Turkish. Turkish means Turks of Anatolia, Balkans, Middle-Eastern sunni Turkmens (Shias are linked with Azerbaijanis) and Cypriot Turks.

[Impaler]

These are Turkic people, not Turkish. Turkish means Turks of Anatolia, Balkans, Middle-Eastern sunni Turkmens (Shias are linked with Azerbaijanis) and Cypriot Turks.

I will change the thread title in: Who are the Turkic and Turkish ancestors!

[Marmara]

I will change the thread title in: Who are the Turkic and Turkish ancestors!

Ancestors of Turkic people are from north China. Turkics were first recorded in Chinese sources, they were pastoral nomads, established Göktürk Khaganate, expanded westwards, encountered with Arabs and converted to Islam. Ancestors of Turkish people were Oghuz Turks living in Oghuz Yabgu state, they were converted to Islam and founded the Seljuk Empire. They conquered Iran, most of Middle East and in 1071 battle of Manzikert, conquered Anatolia. Turkic oghuz tribes then moved in Anatolia, settling there and also converting locals, which became the source of Turkish people later on.

[Hudayar]

Turkics were initially some woodsmen in Siberia near to Lake Baikal, then for some reasons most of them migrated southwards and became nomadic there.

Origins of Turks, well i posted lots of Turkish gedmatch results check them. But to summarize there are 2 main population sources, Byzantine era Anatolians and Oghuz Turkmens

[Impaler]

Turkics were initially some woodsmen in Siberia near to Lake Baikal, then for some reasons most of them migrated southwards and became nomadic there.

Origins of Turks, well i posted lots of Turkish gedmatch results check them. But to summarize there are 2 main population sources, Byzantine era Anatolians and Oghuz Turkmens

Are Turkish from Anatolia related to Turkic tribes from Central Asia?

[Hudayar]

Are Turkish from Anatolia related to Turkic tribes from Central Asia?

Yes but depends on what you mean by Central Asian
Kazakh/Kyrgyz? Not very much. Maybe 10-15% or 20% at best. Uzbek? Eeeh, maybe 20-30% depending on the uzbek. Turkmens? Yes there is somewhat strong genetic relationship, but not same. I'd say 30-60%

[JMack]

Iranic men breeding with Mongoloid women created the first ''Turks'' known. The others are pretty much the result of their linguistic and cultural expansion.