The Pashtuns

[Mingle]

how are balochs west iranic ? dafuck

They're not genetically West Iranic/West Asian, but they are descended from migrants that came from Western Iran (the Alborz Mountains I think). They're called West Iranic since they speak a West Iranic language. The Kurdish-Zaza languages are genetically closer to Balochi than they are to Persian.

Some of them even have Kurd as surnames: https://www.geo.tv/latest/994-usman-...ctarian-terror

[Hadouken]

They're not genetically West Iranic/West Asian, but they are descended from migrants that came from Western Iran (the Alborz Mountains I think). The Kurdish-Zaza languages are genetically closer to Balochi than they are to Persian.

Some of them even have Kurd as surnames: https://www.geo.tv/latest/994-usman-...ctarian-terror

yes I meant genetically , geographically , phenotypically etc

language wise yes I agree

[Babak]

didnt know you mean languages . they are the most far east iranics and also dont cluster with west iranics . but if you mean language wise then I guess yes

thats what i mean, linguistically. Im already aware they dont cluster with west iranics, they're obviously closer to east iranics

[lameduck]

I will try to post non google pics , all from Pak

[Arduti]

Afghan Women Forum has a YouTube channel.
They edited Simcha Jacobovici's documentary to showcase what pertains to Pashtuns.
Take a look:

[lameduck]

All Afiridi Pashtuns

[Mingle]

Afghan Women Forum has a YouTube channel.
They edited Simcha Jacobovici's documentary to showcase what pertains to Pashtuns.
Take a look:

I just skimmed to a random part and this is really amateur work. First off, the name Herat comes from the Hari/Heray River, not "Havar" (or whatever they). So two names sound similar? That doesn't mean anything. They then claimed Afghanistan was an Israelite name It's actually a Persian exonym. The native Pashto name for the land was "Pashtunkhwa". They then went on to say that Pashtuns rocking their body while reading the Qur'an means they are following a Jewish tradition? What?? Lol. They don't do that as some sort of ritualistic thing when starting the Qur'an. When people sit in one place for a long time, their bodies get a bit tense and they move around a bit (i.e. rock it back and forth a bit). This happens among all Muslims that read the Qur'an. It's just human nature and has nothing to do with culture or religion. After that, they claimed that 'Musakhel' means son of Moses. It kinda does, but it's not reference to the Israelite Moses, but in reference to a Pashtun man named Moses. Many Pashtun tribes are named after a single figurehead. There's a Pashtun tribe named 'Wazir' which means "leader" in Arabic. By his logic, Pashtuns are Arabs lol. They then claim that because Pashtuns do honor killing different than Islamically prescribed, that means that they're being treasonous to their religion and following Jewish customs??? Pretty sure the neighboring ethnicities of Pashtuns do the same. I didn't watch the rest since it seems like a waste of 15-20 minutes. But you get the idea.

I already told you that the Pashtun-Israelite connection was fabricated out of thin air by a powerful guy with an agenda in a book written by Nematullah Harawi called "Makhzan-e-Afghani": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimat_Allah_al-Harawi

[Arduti]

I just skimmed to a random part and this is really amateur work. First off, the name Herat comes from the Hari/Heray River, not "Havar" (or whatever they). So two names sound similar? That doesn't mean anything. They then claimed Afghanistan was an Israelite name It's actually a Persian exonym. The native Pashto name for the land was "Pashtunkhwa". They then went on to say that Pashtuns rocking their body while reading the Qur'an means they are following a Jewish tradition? What?? Lol. They don't do that as some sort of ritualistic thing when starting the Qur'an. When people sit in one place for a long time, their bodies get a bit tense and they move around a bit (i.e. rock it back and forth a bit). This happens among all Muslims that read the Qur'an. It's just human nature and has nothing to do with culture or religion. After that, they claimed that 'Musakhel' means son of Moses. It kinda does, but it's not reference to the Israelite Moses, but in reference to a Pashtun man named Moses. Many Pashtun tribes are named after a single figurehead. There's a Pashtun tribe named 'Wazir' which means "leader" in Arabic. By his logic, Pashtuns are Arabs lol. They then claim that because Pashtuns do honor killing different than Islamically prescribed, that means that they're being treasonous to their religion and following Jewish customs??? Pretty sure the neighboring ethnicities of Pashtuns do the same. I didn't watch the rest since it seems like a waste of 15-20 minutes. But you get the idea.

I already told you that the Pashtun-Israelite connection was fabricated out of thin air by a powerful guy with an agenda in a book written by Nematullah Harawi called "Makhzan-e-Afghani": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimat_Allah_al-Harawi

Whatever makes you feel better.

[Mingle]

Whatever makes you feel better.

I don't have anything against Jews. The theory is just completely pseudo-scientific and bogus. You might as well say that Sarbanis are descended from Serbs. I provided valid reasons for why the Israelite theory is hogwash. You are free to debunk them. The fact that Pashto has ZERO Hebrew loanwords is basically enough smother the whole theory. The list of nations that claim to be descended from a lost Israeli tribe is endless.

The fact is:

* There is clear documentation of orders being given to Harwi to fabricate a myth connecting Pashtuns to Israelis.
* There is zero archaeological evidence for the theory.
* There is zero linguistic evidence for the theory.

[Arduti]

I don't have anything against Jews. The theory is just completely pseudo-scientific and bogus. You might as well say that Sarbanis are descended from Serbs. I provided valid reasons for why the Israelite theory is hogwash. You are free to debunk them. The fact that Pashto has ZERO Hebrew loanwords is basically enough smother the whole theory. The list of nations that claim to be descended from a lost Israeli tribe is endless.

The fact is:

* There is clear documentation of orders being given to Harwi to fabricate a myth connecting Pashtuns to Israelis.
* There is zero archaeological evidence for the theory.
* There is zero linguistic evidence for the theory.

Whatever you say.