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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Genetically Scandinavians are closer to Celts like the Irish and Scots than to Balts especially Norwegians and Danes. That's easy to find and also shows on Gedmatch calcs.








    I grew up on Irish and Welsh legends. Also Early Celtic literature is rich and fascinating. Everyone knows who Merlin is.
    Swedes and Finns are equally Scandinavian, and they are intermediate, or, in terms of Finland, closer to balts

    Norwegians have more Atlantic genetic and anthropological influence,and less Baltic or eastern euro than the rest, which makes them being closer to brits

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    Germans from East Prussia are significantly Baltic-descended (Old Prussian ancestry).

    K36 results of a German with 100% of ancestry from north-western parts of East Prussia:

    Basque 3.23
    Central_Euro 8.78
    East_Balkan 4.30
    East_Central_Euro 13.33
    Eastern_Euro 8.94
    Fennoscandian 9.84

    French 9.41
    Iberian 6.22
    Italian 1.11
    North_Atlantic 12.85
    North_Sea 20.71
    Volga-Ural 1.28

    Admix4 Oracle with modern populations models him as 3/4 Dutch + 1/4 Sudovian Polish (or - alternatively - as 1/2 Dutch + 1/2 North Polish). Sudovian Poles are basically Polonized Sudovians (Yotvingians), a West Baltic tribe similar to Old Prussians.

    At the beginning of the 15th century, share of Old Prussians among rural population was:

    Western East Prussia ---- 38%
    Northern Ermland ------- 50%
    Southern Ermland ------- 75%
    Natangia ----------------- 90%
    Sambia ------------------ 100%

    These are Gerard Labuda's estimates based on Teutonic Order's tax census from 1404.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
    Swedes and Finns are equally Scandinavian, and they are intermediate, or, in terms of Finland, closer to balts

    Norwegians have more Atlantic genetic and anthropological influence,and less Baltic or eastern euro than the rest, which makes them being closer to brits
    Finns aren't Scandinavian. Also Swedes are closer to British Isles than Balts.

    "Despite close contacts within the Nordic region, the Swedes appeared genetically closer to Germans and British than to Finns," says Professor Juha Kere from the Department of Biosciences and Nutrition at Karolinska Institutet.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0211074848.htm

    Here's the full study if anyone is interested.

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0022547

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    I know that on this forum we have at least one user (A-ha) who has Prussian subclade of N1c haplogroup:


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    Balts and Celts also get along well, Latvians and Irish for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Balts and Celts also get along well, Latvians and Irish for instance.
    Yes very much so. There are a lot of Lithuanians and Latvians in Ireland.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...road-1.2471339

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    none, both are alcoholists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Balts and Celts also get along well, Latvians and Irish for instance.
    Are you sure? Latvians are mostly Protestant, Irish are mostly Catholic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Germans from East Prussia are significantly Baltic-descended (Old Prussian ancestry).

    K36 results of a German with 100% of ancestry from north-western parts of East Prussia:

    Basque 3.23
    Central_Euro 8.78
    East_Balkan 4.30
    East_Central_Euro 13.33
    Eastern_Euro 8.94
    Fennoscandian 9.84

    French 9.41
    Iberian 6.22
    Italian 1.11
    North_Atlantic 12.85
    North_Sea 20.71
    Volga-Ural 1.28

    Admix4 Oracle with modern populations models him as 3/4 Dutch + 1/4 Sudovian Polish (or - alternatively - as 1/2 Dutch + 1/2 North Polish). Sudovian Poles are basically Polonized Sudovians (Yotvingians), a West Baltic tribe similar to Old Prussians.
    And nMonte confirms, it models him as half-Dutch, half-Polish:

    North_Dutch 53.5 %
    Poland_North 44.6 %
    Spain_Navarra 1.9 %

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ded Mazai View Post
    none, both are alcoholists
    Круче поволжских финно-угров не пьёт никто. Там в ход идут стекломои и тормозная жидкость).

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