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    rolleyes The Kingdom of Pannonia was actually indoeuropean until 1867...

    1. Official latin name: Pannonia (form IE people and province).
    2. Culture: European, IE.
    3. Official language: Latin, later German.
    4. IE speaking population: 71% (1787) with Croatia it would make 3/4.
    5. R1 among hungarian spekers: 50%
    6. Real Ugrofinians: 0.47% among hungarian speakers.
    7. Rulers: actually IEs too. (Arpads claimed to be Scythians, Capeteans - french Germans, Przemyślids - Czech,
    8. Wittelsbachs, Luxemburgs, Habsburgs, Lothringens - Germans, Yagiellons - polish Lithuanians). Ottomans - R1.
    9. Race: white -> IE
    10. Civilisation: IE
    11. Church: IE lingustic rite.
    12. The capital was 2/3 non hungarian, majority german (1850).

    What do you need more?
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    Good riddance

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    Nonsense troll thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    Nonsense troll thread.
    What is not true from this what I listed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    What is not true from this what I listed?
    ''Kingdom of Panonnia'' never existed. It was just a name for Roman province west of the Danube river, and it include only western Hungary (Transdanubia) and Slavonia.

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    Rethel, are you think Hungarian peasants and townspeople speak the Latin language ??! ))))))))))))))))))

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    Nah they were Finno-Ugric who were led, shaped and ruled by a Khazar extraction Turkic elite.


    The Empire of the Steppes: A History of Central Asia
    By René Grousset
    p.178




    Obviously even on their way to Danube region, they were still loyal to the great Kaghans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Rulers: actually IEs too. (Arpads claimed to be Scythians

    What do you need more?
    Árpád dynasty claimed the ''legendary'' Hunnic origin.


    Medieval chroniclers also referred to a tradition that the Árpáds descended from Attila the Hun – the anonymous author of the Gesta Hungarorum, for example, has Árpád say:

    The land stretching between the Danube and the Tisza used to belong to my forefather, the mighty Attila.
    — Gesta Hungarorum[6]


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    ''Kingdom of Panonnia'' never existed. It was just a name for Roman province west of the Danube river, and it include only western Hungary (Transdanubia) and Slavonia.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Hungary#Pannonia

    Later, the territory of the medieval Kingdom of Hungary included that of former Pannonia, and Medieval Latin transferred the denomination of Pannonia to the territory of the Kingdom of Hungary. Further, the King of Hungary was given the title of Rex Pannoniae ("King of Pannonia") and Rex Pannonicorum ("King of the Pannonians").

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    Rethel, are you think Hungarian peasants and townspeople speak the Latin language ??! ))))))))))))))))))
    Of course not, BUT the STATE was speaking latin and later german.
    And btw, the huge majrity of inhabitants were IE speakers anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    Árpád dynasty claimed the ''legendary'' Hunnic origin.


    Medieval chroniclers also referred to a tradition that the Árpáds descended from Attila the Hun – the anonymous author of the Gesta Hungarorum, for example, has Árpád say:

    The land stretching between the Danube and the Tisza used to belong to my forefather, the mighty Attila.
    — Gesta Hungarorum[6]


    But also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cgyek

    Ügek, the noblest chieftain of Scythia descending from the great house of Magog,
    took to wife in Dentumoger the daughter of Prince Eunedubelian, called Emese, from whom
    he begot a son, who was named Álmos.

    Not only Scythia is IE, but the more Magog, son of Japheth, the forefather of IEs.

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