Were Koreans the most peaceful people in East Asia?

[zhaoyun]

Please note that we should always be careful when speaking of numbers such as this. History is always romanticized and the deeds of men exaggerated. That "million" figure might not be literal, and it could be used as an adjective instead.

Not really. If I'm not mistaken, the maximum population Han Dynasty China for example was around 58 million. More recent research suggests the Roman Empires population peaked between 70 to 100 million.

But I think he was talking about the standing army of "over a million"

Quite debatable. Some of the "population losses" in China could be attributed to poor record keeping in the past. Also, many of these figures are based off the words of others and it was not uncommon for generals to exaggerate their numbers to intimidate opponents. Cao Cao almost certainly did that at the Battle of Red Cliffs.

To each his own
Despite the horrendous historical and political relations I feel closer to the Japanese than Koreans. I just feel somehow more familiar to them somehow.

Anyways, ethnically I feel closest to them:


And I know how some, maybe even many overseas Chinese (and mainland Chinese too) hate on the Manchus but honestly without them China would never be as big as it is now. They eliminated many of the traditional threats China faced and to me Manchus are as much a part of China as any "Han".

Well, I consider Chinese minorities to be Chinese in general. I was referring to non-Chinese Asians that I feel ethnically close to.

[Visitor_22]

Koreans are a great people. They were cursed geographically, but they are a tremendous culture. I feel closest to them ethnically compared to any other Asian group.

Koreans & Japanese brought most of their culture from Ancient China, didn't they?

Also, traditional Japanese kimono looks strikingly similar to Hanfu, doesn't it?

[zhaoyun]

Koreans & Japanese brought most of their culture from Ancient China, didn't they?

Also, traditional Japanese kimono looks strikingly similar to Hanfu, doesn't it?

Yeah, obviously. China was the fountain of East Asian civilization.

Korea is one of the most historically sinicized countries in the world. Even their names are based on the Chinese system, like the Vietnamese.

[Senpai]

If I'm not mistaken, Koreans are built more durable on average than the others around them. They've definitely had their fair share of wars and conflicts, ancient and modern.

[Lurker]

Korea is the anti-USA. USA has weak neighbors it doesn't have to worry about (Mexico, Canada). Korea has strong neighbors it always has to worry about (China, Japan).

[Gangrel]

Koreans were historically hard asses, now they are becoming fags

[zhaoyun]

If I'm not mistaken, Koreans are built more durable on average than the others around them. They've definitely had their fair share of wars and conflicts, ancient and modern.

Generally Koreans overlap a lot with Northern Chinese and Mongolians, who are taller and stronger built than most other Asian ethnicities. South Korea is the tallest Asian country on average, but their average height is actually still shorter than most Northern Chinese provinces.

It's a miracle honestly that Korea is independent, even if it is divided. All of the other peoples and kingdoms that once existed there were swallowed up by China or Japan or even parts of Russia now. Mongolia got off lucky too, otherwise they would be an autonomous region of China today like Inner Mongolia is.

[Visitor_22]

Yeah, obviously. China was the fountain of East Asian civilization.

Korea is one of the most historically sinicized countries in the world. Even their names are based on the Chinese system, like the Vietnamese.

Yep... Korea & Japan took or 'stole' almost everything of their traditions, culture etc. from Old China.

Also it's quite interesting that adopted chinese things usually begins with 'Han...' or 'Kan'... at least in Japan. Japanese traditional writing characters - 'Kanji' for example.

But what's seperates Japanese from Koreans is that Japanese usually admit it all as a chinese 'import', while koreans have a tough time admitting it.

Heard a lot of Koreans who say 'Han' term belongs to Koreans only & Chinese have nothing to do with it. They call their country 'Han Gook', call their women's clothes 'Hanbok' etc. 'Han River' flows through Seoul etc.

[zhaoyun]

Yep... Korea & Japan took or 'stole' almost everything of their traditions, culture etc. from Old China.

Also it's quite interesting that adopted chinese things usually begins with 'Han...' or 'Kan'. Japanese traditional writing characters - 'Kanji' for example.

But what's seperates Japanese from Koreans is that Japanese usually admit it all as a chinese 'import', while koreans have a tough time admitting it.


Heard a lot of Koreans who say 'Han' term belongs to Koreans only & Chinese have nothing to do with it. They call their country 'Han Gook', call their women's clothes 'Hanbok' etc.

Well, to be fair the "Han" that Koreans use is different, it refers to the Han River, this is the character 韓

Han in the Chinese sense refers to the Han Dynasty and it is this character 漢

Koreans probably have a harder time admitting it because modern Koreans are zealously nationalistic, almost like they were religious about it. They are the most nationalistic people in the world today, most likely because they've spent their history fighting off stronger neighbors. But yes, if it weren't for a fluke of history and Korean kings traditionally being the most devoted and friendly client state to succeeding Chinese courts, then Korea would've been absorbed as a Chinese province a long time ago.

[Taiji]

Well, I consider Chinese minorities to be Chinese in general. I was referring to non-Chinese Asians that I feel ethnically close to.

I was thinking about it in an ethnic sense, but no matter. If that's the case then excluding overseas Chinese groups I probably feel closer to these people: