Is the Universe Only 6,000 years old? Young Earth Creationists Say Yes!

[Pigling]

I see religion as tool useful just to manipulate women so they preserve their sexual purity/husbands pride...

[Rethel]

OF COURSE NOT If it were, we could not see any object more than 6000 light years away because the light from it would not have had time to reach us.

It is obviously nonsensical assumption, as Jehovah did create stars for being
seen on Earth, not for waiting, until the light from them will come to Earth.

1. So obviously he could create them allready visible. If he could create
all stars, the more, he could create the light from them on the way.

2. Assumption, that light has always the same speed is not reasonable,
as we cannot know, what speed it has 10 billion light years from here,
especially, that allready it is proven, that light has not the same speed,
or, that previous measurments are not actual today.

3. From theory of relativity, it is known, that time can be different in
different parts of the Universe, so even if on Earth passed 6000 years,
in different parts of the Universe could pass 6 zilions years, who cares.

So, if you want to be scientific, be scientific and turn on brain.

Btw, according to your methodology, Adam, one second after creation
would be 20-25 years old. So, you would detect very fictional time, from
631,152,000 to 788,940,000 TIMES bigger, than his real age. So whole your
assumptions would guide you wrongly - totaly wrongly.

We couldn't even see most of our own galaxy.

So the more, you cannot know, how and from where is the whole Universe!

Our galaxy's two satellite galaxies, the Magellanic Clouds are 35,000 and 50,000 light years away. If the universe were but 6000 years old, we would not see the nearer of them for 29,000 years yet, and the farther for 44,000 years Yet, both are clearly visible in the Southern Hemisphere.

As above.

Our measurements of their distances are based on sound physical and optical principles which have been proved to be valid. The nearest galaxy external to our own galactic cluster, the Local Group, is about 2.2
MILLION light years away. It should not become visible for another 2,200,000 - 6000 years, give or take a bit for small inaccuracies in measurement..

As above + you assume, that either God was not mighy enaugh or that some scienific
theories cannot work when it would support the Bible. Interesting methodology...

[Rethel]

If humans and dinosaurs co-existed, how did weak, slow, fangless, clawless, armorless humankind ever survive ? Take a good look at a dinosaur skeleton, imagine that animal engine of destruction lumbering after you to make you a light snack after breakfast. Can you make a field howitzer and shells for it while on the run from this behemoth ? maybe you could , if you knew in advance which way he was going, make a deadfall trap. They're effective egainst bears. This critter could use a a bear for an appetizer. Do you really think that humans could EVER have defeated even one Tyrannosaurus ?

If humans had been contemporary with dinosaurs, there would be NO HUMAN RACE today. We couldn't even compete with the giant mammals of the early Cenozoic, but had to wait until they had become extinct before we could survive.

Idiotic assumption. According to this, humans shouldn;t exist at all, as many other factors should destroy us.
But, maybe you do not know this yet, but people have brains and inteligence, which allow them to survive in
many different enviroments and overtake many danger factors. And btw, after the flood dinosaurs probably
were not so big as before the flood, and even if were, then it is the whole point in killing the biggest one, as
the legends about dragons claim. The biggest dragon, the biggest fame for killer. Normal thing.

And most of dinosaurs were not bigger than a cow anyway, and yet, the bigest ones were plant eaters. And
even the meat eaters were not human killing cyborgs - so obviously humankind were not their primal goal,
so could survive. Btw, such Tyrranosaurus was interested in bigger victims than small human. He would not
even feel the taste - the more, he would be not stuffed. Please, think sometimes, it really doesn't hurt.

[Rethel]

The Noachian flood was a purely local event, confined to the Mediterranean basin.

If you are talking about noachian flood, please, read about it.
There is nothing like you said. You just invented it. But do not
call your own imagination by known and well define terms.

A world-wide flood, submerging the continents is a physical impossibility. To account for such an event, it would be necessary to resort to a miracle.Miracles are very convenient in that they can be used to "explain" anything by implying that there is no explanation. God so willed it. End of discussion.

The whole point is, that God did make it! If it would be possible and natural, then there would be no need for his intervention.
But the whole point is, that he wanted to intervene, and created something, which you cannot explain by natural causes.

Exactly for that reason.

[Rethel]

No more opposition?

[Loki]

No more opposition?

Seemingly not

[Aldaris]

All religion is manmade, and behind it is in many cases the work of demons, nephilim.

There is one true God, though. Following him cannot be considered a religion. It's not religiosity. All religions are based on man's good works, man trying to attain or achieve something, some spirituality, or enlightenment, or whatever. But God's gift of eternal life cannot be achieved, you cannot earn it. It's for free, you have to merely lay down your pride and accept it into your life. That's when God takes you up on your faith, and miracles start to happen!

I'm not going to discuss your assumptions, but your first conclusion about demons is completely correct, given that Christianity is true. In fact, their intervention would be necessary, in the order to explain the similarities of Christianity and other religions, which go very, very far. Atheists usually claim, that those similarities do disprove Christianity. Even though I'm an atheist, I can see why this argument is flawed. Demons know what God is like and what his plan is, so they've created twisted mockeries of the truth, which also serve the function of deception. Regarding the question, whether Christianity is a religion or not, I'm sorry to disagree, but I think it clearly is. Religion is defined as follows: "Religion is any cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, ethics, or organizations, that relate humanity to the supernatural or transcendental." Whether true or not, Christianity fits the definition perfectly.

[LoLeL]

We have some of them here plus "flat earth" sauce.

[Loki]

I'm not going to discuss your assumptions, but your first conclusion about demons is completely correct, given that Christianity is true. In fact, their intervention would be necessary, in the order to explain the similarities of Christianity and other religions, which go very, very far. Atheists usually claim, that those similarities do disprove Christianity. Even though I'm an atheist, I can see why this argument is flawed. Demons know what God is like and what his plan is, so they've created twisted mockeries of the truth, which also serve the function of deception. Regarding the question, whether Christianity is a religion or not, I'm sorry to disagree, but I think it clearly is. Religion is defined as follows: "Religion is any cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, ethics, or organizations, that relate humanity to the supernatural or transcendental." Whether true or not, Christianity fits the definition perfectly.

Over the centuries people have diluted the gospel of Jesus Christ into a manmade institution, incorporated pagan ideas, etc etc. Hence, you are correct in this regard. But God has provided for us that the Bible remained a testament of his plan for humans for salvation... and this has not changed. The gospel is as powerful and real as it was 2,000 years ago today if we believe God's word through Jesus and the Apostles, and it still makes lives new and brings people back into right standing with God. Churches cannot save anyone. "Christianity" also can't. But Jesus Christ can, and still does.

[Rethel]

The future of hard sciences in your classroom.

What has science to do with the origin at all?
To know, how robot works or what kind of a pig has a swine, you do not need
to know, how it begins at all. More than that: you do not need fairy tales one
after another, produced by people, who allready rejected true recorded story...