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    Default Latin American Gedmatch Kits (Random Sample) Update with 2.458 samples

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    Gedmatch - Eurogenes K15 - 2.458 Latin American samples

    ome comments before the charts.

    Argentina : Most of the samples come from a lab in Santa Fe (Argentina) that is now testing people here. It costs around USD 50/100. Many of the argentine are adopted. I have people from every province.
    Brazil: Samples from many states.
    Mexico: As there are millons of mexicans in the USA, and most of them are low/middle class, the sample should be good
    Puerto Rico: Same as Mexico,many in the USA, and most of them are low/middle class, the sample should be good
    Chile/Colombia/Costa Rica/Dominicana: Samples are small but they are pretty homogeneous which shows something.

    Samples Country
    473 P Rico
    592 Brazil
    399 Argentina
    220 Mexico
    200 Cuba
    96 Colombia
    88 Costa Rica
    74 Panama
    92 Chile
    56 R Dominicana
    29 Guatemala
    24 Venezuela
    30 Peru
    24 Uruguay
    19 Paraguay
    11 Ecuador
    11 Bolivia
    9 El Salvador
    8 Honduras
    3 Nicaragua






    EDIT


    Some euro boxplots thanks to a program El Litvino Sent me





    Thanks to user El Litvino i could do some PCA


    Argentina PCA with some euro references in black




    Cuba



    Brazil


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    I am surprised by all of the following:

    A. Colombia and Venezuela having little African,
    B. Relative homogeneity among Puerto Ricans,
    C. Chileans having more Amerindian than expected given how whitewashed they are on these forums,
    D. Guatemalans having more European than expected given that they are often said to be predominantly Amerindian across the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I am surprised by all of the following:

    A. Colombia and Venezuela having little African,
    B. Relative homogeneity among Puerto Ricans,
    C. Chileans having more Amerindian than expected given how whitewashed they are on these forums,
    D. Guatemalans having more European than expected given that they are often said to be predominantly Amerindian across the board.
    A. I think black colombians are VERY BLACK but are a small % of Colombian population. Obviously they exist and this sample is minimizing them, but i think mestizos are much more important. If you take Medellin genetic studies for example, they rarely have pred SSA people.

    https://media.springernature.com/m68...ep12376-f1.jpg

    Just Costal areas like Chocó have pred black people

    http://d2vw8dvx0mg08w.cloudfront.net...5/F1.large.jpg

    B. Puerto Rico is a small island with a colonial population. I have noticed that the more colonial the population, the more homogeneous the result.

    C. Chileans are mostly mestizo. Both whites and amerindians are rare.

    D. The guatemalan sample is too small. I wasnt going to post small samples because the results are less representative.

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    Looks pretty accurate to me but did you used samples from Southern Brazil? I expected a greater full-European minority. Also, can you post the average percentages of European components on Eurogenes K15 of these countries? It would be interesting to see who received more Northern European-like input.

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    Also, i'm surprised to see that there's a considerable huge minority of people less than 40% European in Brazil compared to others Latin American countries, we have peer-reviewed studies that show that even self-identified blacks here have, on average, 40% European ancestry and it reaches 50% in more mixed regions like the Northeast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Looks pretty accurate to me but did you used samples from Southern Brazil? I expected a greater full-European minority. Also, can you post the average percentages of European components on Eurogenes K15 of these countries? It would be interesting to see who received more Northern European-like input.
    Yes obviously i used samples from all of Brazil. The south included.

    I did something similar to what you are asking here

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4771003

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    Great work guys! Excellent dataset.

    What surprised me is the relatively low % of Amerindian in Guatemala. Chile being more Amerindian than Paraguay is also surprising, but maybe it is due to the fact that Paraguayan Indio-Mestizos are poorer than Chilean and don't order DNA tests so often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    A. I think black colombians are VERY BLACK but are a small % of Colombian population. Obviously they exist and this sample is minimizing them, but i think mestizos are much more important. If you take Medellin genetic studies for example, they rarely have pred SSA people.

    https://media.springernature.com/m68...ep12376-f1.jpg

    Just Costal areas like Chocó have pred black people

    http://d2vw8dvx0mg08w.cloudfront.net...5/F1.large.jpg

    B. Puerto Rico is a small island with a colonial population. I have noticed that the more colonial the population, the more homogeneous the result.

    C. Chileans are mostly mestizo. Both whites and amerindians are rare.

    D. The guatemalan sample is too small. I wasnt going to post small samples because the results are less representative.
    What is NEA? (the purple component on the charts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Also, i'm surprised to see that there's a considerable huge minority of people less than 40% European in Brazil compared to others Latin American countries, we have peer-reviewed studies that show that even self-identified blacks here have, on average, 40% European ancestry and it reaches 50% in more mixed regions like the Northeast.
    Im sorry but there isnt "a considerable huge minority of people less than 40% European in Brazil". Are you reading the charts correctly? The people below 40% euro in brazil are like 3% of the sample.


    Also, take into consideration that when a brazilian genetic study has blacks at 40% euro ON AVERAGE, IT INCLUDES BLACKS who range from 60-20% euro. Its not like 40% euro is the minimun. Thats the average.


    https://www.researchgate.net/profile...-shows-the.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    What is NEA? (the purple component on the charts)
    Northeast African. I have it separated because both southern europeans and africans score it. Southern euro Whites can score like 1-1.5% and blacks will score more like 3-6%. So it can be both.

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