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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrong View Post
    Magyars are Finno-Ugric. Not Turkic.

    With OP reasoning capabilities, Finns are also Turkic.
    The problem with that thesis is that early Magyars were closely culturally and civilizationally intertwined with different groups of Turkic peoples unlike other Finno-Ugrics. Refer to my post in this thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-Hungary/page2

    This doesn't change the fact that Hungarians are Europeans. Of course those who wish to identify so. What I mean is Hungarians can acknowledge, be proud of their early history and still be European, western European to be precise due to their long presence on the continent.












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    Quote Originally Posted by ovidiu View Post
    I don't think the Szekelys were a Turkic people. Everything seems to point toward a Magyar (or Magyarized) origin, including the language. But they're just a bit more distinct from Hungary proper due to being split from them for a while.

    Turkic in the region was the Cumans/Pechenegs/Kipchaks/Bulgars. Some did settle in the region but not in Transylvania, mostly south of the mountains in the lowlands, or in the east. Some later were moved to Hungary, and a few went to Bulgaria and Macedonia (there's a town called Kumanovo I think).

    However the genetic impact of Turkics in the region is still very small overall. Like only around 5% or so in parts of Wallachia and roughly similar amounts in some neighboring countries.
    There is no such a thing as a Turkic component. You have to view history and genetic admixture in segments. Proto-Turks were a mixture of Scythians and original proto-Turks. As they moved west, "Europeoid" components increased. Oghuric Turks that interacted and joined Magyars were very much Europeoid in appearance. Plus there were Mongol invasions of Central Asia and beyond later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaglakar View Post
    The problem with that thesis is that early Magyars were closely culturally and civilizationally intertwined with different groups of Turkic peoples unlike other Finno-Ugrics. Refer to my post in this thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-Hungary/page2

    This doesn't change the fact that Hungarians are Europeans.
    That I do understand. There was a lot of Turkic movements in the areas before, during and after the time of the Magyar conquest of the Pannonian basin.

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    Isn't it funny that people from anthropologically genetically culturally far less European nations try to call Hungarians Turkic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    There are no genetic or linguistic proofs for that. Anthropologically if you want to search some Turkic looking people in the region go to Romania (Wallachia) Ukraine or Southern Serbia.
    just be quite , know your place and respectful on front of who Magyarified you useless subhuman of slave seed
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    This gentleman is my match as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    Isn't it funny that people from anthropologically genetically culturally far less European nations try to call Hungarians Turkic?
    Actually, the Turks are calling Hungarians Turkic.

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    You're blurring the lines when you post this intentionally. You know that there are Turkic people in the east that cluster close to non-Turkic people, just like Turkic people in the west cluster differently. That is why they break it down by ethnicity (Hungarian, Anatolian Turkish, etc,) rather than use meta identities (Turkic) because of the diversity of peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turul Karom View Post
    You're blurring the lines when you post this intentionally. You know that there are Turkic people in the east that cluster close to non-Turkic people, just like Turkic people in the west cluster differently. That is why they break it down by ethnicity (Hungarian, Anatolian Turkish, etc,) rather than use meta identities (Turkic) because of the diversity of peoples.


    He is dishonest .

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