Y-DNA chart of 91 Turks (NEW)

[Lavrentis]

Nooooooope. This has already been debunked.

Also there's no such thing as "Turkic" haplogroup lmao. J2, R1b, R1a etc are also common in Central Asia. You should check autosomal dna. If you want to i can also show you GEDmatch results of Turks.

Here's one as an example
#PopulationPercent
1 East_Med 23.12
2 West_Asian 20.92
3 West_Med 12.85
4 Baltic 12.09
5 Siberian 10.19
6 North_Atlantic 7.31
7 East_Asian 6.37
8 Red_Sea 4.52
9 South_Asian 1.52
10 Oceanian 1.08
11 Amerindian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1 Turkish 14.61
2 Nogay 17.12
3 Turkmen 17.82
4 Central_Greek 18.13
5 Azeri 18.37
6 East_Sicilian 18.83
7 Greek_Thessaly 19.51
8 Ashkenazi 19.59
9 Italian_Abruzzo 20.16
10 South_Italian 20.19
11 Kumyk 21.17
12 West_Sicilian 21.92
13 Lebanese_Muslim 22.19
14 Bulgarian 22.39
15 Cyprian 22.46
16 Syrian 22.5
17 Sephardic_Jewish 22.59
18 Algerian_Jewish 23.33
19 Afghan_Turkmen 23.34
20 Balkar 23.5



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
158.2%Nogay + 41.8%Algerian_Jewish @ 5.19
253.7%Nogay + 46.3%Ashkenazi @ 5.36
351%Cyprian + 49%Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.76
459%Nogay + 41%Italian_Jewish @ 5.79
559.5%Nogay + 40.5%Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.8
660%Nogay + 40%Libyan_Jewish @ 6
757.5%Nogay + 42.5%Cyprian @ 6.23
857.7%Nogay + 42.3%Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.27
957%Central_Greek + 43%Afghan_Turkmen @ 6.65
1062.7%Nogay + 37.3%Samaritan @ 6.69
1159.8%Central_Greek + 40.2%Uzbeki @ 6.73
1253.8%Cyprian + 46.2%Uzbeki @ 6.76
1356%East_Sicilian + 44%Afghan_Turkmen @ 6.84
1452.8%Nogay + 47.2%East_Sicilian @ 6.85
1554%South_Italian + 46%Afghan_Turkmen @ 7.04
1654.9%Ashkenazi + 45.1%Afghan_Turkmen @ 7.07
1764.3%Central_Greek + 35.7%Hazara @ 7.1
1854.8%Nogay + 45.2%South_Italian @ 7.14
1958.8%East_Sicilian + 41.2%Uzbeki @ 7.15

Cherry-picked result, post more


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[Gramos]

Nooooooope. This has already been debunked.

Also there's no such thing as "Turkic" haplogroup lmao. J2, R1b, R1a etc are also common in Central Asia. If you want to i can also show you GEDmatch results of Turks.

J2a is the strongest haplogroup among Turkish people and it's native in Anatolia, not related with real Turks.
R1b (known as Anatolian branch) is also native in Anatolia and not related with real Turks.
R1a is mostly Slavic M458 and Z280, and Indo-Aryan Z93 almost does not exist in Turkey.
G2 is native in Anatolia or from Caucasus, it has nothing to do with Turks.

[Gramos]

Cherry-picked result, post more


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Cherry-picked from Turks with recent Tatar or some other semi-mongoloid ancestors.

[Hudayar]

J2a is the strongest haplogroup among Turkish people and it's native in Anatolia, not related with real Turks.
R1b (known as Anatolian branch) is also native in Anatolia and not related with real Turks.
R1a is mostly Slavic M458 and Z280, and Indo-Aryan Z93 almost does not exist in Turkey.
G2 is native in Anatolia or from Caucasus, it has nothing to do with Turks.

Ah yes "J2" has nothing to do with Turkics as can be seen here


Look at those native Anatolians in Uzbekistan



R1b is also indeed native to Anatolia, nothing to do with Central Asia!





For a haplotard you're pretty dumb and ignorant. If you try to argue with me come up with better arguments. I'll try to educate you

[Hudayar]

Cherry-picked from Turks with recent Tatar or some other semi-mongoloid ancestors.

Nope. All of them are native to Anatolia. I took the result from here
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Dmatch-results



Not satisfied? Here's one from Central Anatolia
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ral-Anatolian)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 27.26
2 East_Med 25.23
3 West_Med 11.52
4 Siberian 7.36
5 Baltic 7.15
6 North_Atlantic 6.98
7 East_Asian 5.52
8 Red_Sea 5.11
9 South_Asian 2.80
10 Amerindian 1.08


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 7.827005
2 Azeri @ 12.115146
3 Turkmen @ 15.416478
4 Kurdish @ 18.422138
5 Kumyk @ 18.570681
6 Georgian_Jewish @ 18.789095
7 Iranian @ 18.978643
8 Armenian @ 19.156500
9 Assyrian @ 19.462763
10 Lebanese_Muslim @ 19.852335
11 Nogay @ 20.215675
12 Syrian @ 20.334293
13 Central_Greek @ 21.214485
14 Iranian_Jewish @ 21.888222
15 East_Sicilian @ 21.967295
16 Kurdish_Jewish @ 22.030170
17 Cyprian @ 22.043495
18 Balkar @ 22.044586
19 South_Italian @ 22.422161
20 Kabardin @ 23.159328

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Muslim +50% Nogay @ 2.316665


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +25% North_Ossetian +25% Uygur @ 2.066952



Now bugger off.

[Gramos]

Ah yes "J2" has nothing to do with Turkics as can be seen here


Look at those native Anatolians in Uzbekistan



R1b is also indeed native to Anatolia, nothing to do with Central Asia!





For a haplotard you're pretty dumb and ignorant. If you try to argue with me come up with better arguments. I'll try to educate you

Hello, J2a is native in Anastolia, central Asian version of J2 is not related with Anatolian J2a.

[Leto]

There is very few Turkic haplogroups among Turkish people.
Vast majority of Anatolian "Turks" are descendants of native Anatolians which were turkified.

The Turks of Turkey are not just assimilated Anatolians, Greeks, Armenians, Circassians, Balkan Slavs, etc. I used to think so myself, but DNA data doesn't prove it. You have Turks who are like 10-20% East Asian, so Oghuz admixture seems to be significant (mind you they were not 100% East Asian like Koreans from the start, they were already Caucasoid-Mongoloid/Eurasian like Karakalpaks or Turkmens now).

[Hudayar]

Hello, J2a is native in Anastolia, central Asian version of J2 is not related with Anatolian J2a.

Now we're talking about subclades?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ur-and-Turkish



I can also post the Gedmatch results of a Turk who has J1 haplogroup yet he has nothing to do with Arabs. Haplogroups do not prove anything. But autosomal dna does.

[Lavrentis]

The Turks of Turkey are not just assimilated Anatolians, Greeks, Armenians, Circassians, Balkan Slavs, etc.

Greek autosomal admixture is actually very uncommon in Turkey. I have seen other Turkish results, not the cherry-picked ones that OP posted, and they didn't have Greeks at their top populations.


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[Hudayar]

Greek autosomal admixture is actually very uncommon in Turkey. I have seen other Turkish results, not the cherry-picked ones that OP posted, and they didn't have Greeks at their top populations.


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I didn't cherry pick anything. I just posted what i grabbed first.