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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrentis View Post
    Greek autosomal admixture is actually very uncommon in Turkey. I have seen other Turkish results, not the cherry-picked ones that OP posted, and they didn't have Greeks at their top populations.


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    I thought you didn't even know how to use Gedmatch or how it worked?

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    Default Y-DNA chart of 91 Turks (NEW)

    J2a is a Neolithic haplogroup/marker.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudayar View Post
    Now we're talking about subclades?
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ur-and-Turkish



    I can also post the Gedmatch results of a Turk who has J1 haplogroup yet he has nothing to do with Arabs.
    Turks are R1a, R1b, J1, J2, G, Q, C, N, I... all haplogroup on the world are from Turks and all humans are Turkic origin, tell me more about that.
    You are not real Turks, you're a turkified mix of many nations and races from Ottoman Empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggyolk View Post
    I thought you didn't even know how to use Gedmatch or how it worked?
    I have seen results. What I said is that I don't know how to use it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    The Turks of Turkey are not just assimilated Anatolians, Greeks, Armenians, Circassians, Balkan Slavs, etc. I used to think so myself, but DNA data doesn't prove it. You have Turks who are like 10-20% East Asian, so Oghuz admixture seems to be significant (mind you they were not 100% East Asian like Koreans from the start, they were already Caucasoid-Mongoloid/Eurasian like Karakalpaks or Turkmens now).
    Yes. I also used to think that the Anatolian hypothesis is true but i wasn't so sure. So i started to read about genetics, the more i read the more evidences which debunked the hypothesis i saw. I think the Oghuz heritage depends on the person but on the average it should be around 30% or 40% maybe lower or higher than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramos View Post
    Turks are R1a, R1b, J1, J2, G, Q, C, N, I... all haplogroup on the world are from Turks and all humans are Turkic origin, tell me more about that.
    You are not real Turks, you're a turkified mix of many nations and races from Ottoman Empire.
    You're the haplotard here. You tell me. As i mentioned before haplogroups do not prove anything. I saw a Turk from Northeastern Anatolia who had haplogroup C yet had like 6-7% mongoloid heritage. Then there's this guy from Western Anatolia who had haplogroup J1 as his Y-DNA yet he was around 12-14% mongoloid.

    Which one is more "Turkic". The C or J1 guy?


    And "you're not real Turks" is not an argument. I didn't say anything about being 100% pure. And "you're a mix of many nations and races from Ottoman Empire." statement is also wrong. I can also say the same about Romanians.

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    Don't know why Y-DNA is held in so much importance tbh. Some study I read, there is a Siberian man (forgot the clan) near the Beringian strait who had the same exact Y-DNA subclade as me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudayar View Post
    Yes. I also used to think that the Anatolian hypothesis is true but i wasn't so sure. So i started to read about genetics, the more i read the more evidences which debunked the hypothesis i saw. I think the Oghuz heritage depends on the person but on the average it should be around 30% or 40% or maybe lower or higher than that.
    Sounds plausible to me. At least a third of the gene pool is not of Anatolian origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudayar View Post
    You're the haplotard here. You tell me. As i mentioned before haplogroups do not prove anything. I saw a Turk from Northeastern Anatolia who had haplogroup C yet had like 6-7% mongoloid heritage. Then there's this guy from Western Anatolia who had haplogroup J1 as his Y-DNA yet he was around 12-14% mongoloid.

    Which one is more "Turkic". The C or J1 guy?


    And "you're not real Turks" is not an argument. I didn't say anything about being 100% pure. And "you're a mix of many nations and races from Ottoman Empire." statement is also wrong. I can also say the same about Romanians.
    Guy with more mongoloid at autosomal is more Turkic.
    All nations are mix, but Turkish turanists want that Turkish people are pure Turks and that is nonsense. Even Turks from central Asia are not pure Turks, the purest Turks are Siberian Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramos View Post
    Guy with more mongoloid at autosomal is more Turkic.
    All nations are mix, but Turkish turanists want that Turkish people are pure Turks and that is nonsense. Even Turks from central Asia are not pure Turks, the purest Turks are Siberian Turks.
    We can agree on that. Now you're starting to become more logical. Keep up the good work

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