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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramos View Post
    Guy with more mongoloid at autosomal is more Turkic.
    All nations are mix, but Turkish turanists want that Turkish people are pure Turks and that is nonsense. Even Turks from central Asia are not pure Turks, the purest Turks are Siberian Turks.
    No one says Anatolian Turks are pure Turkics, it's you guys who keep saying Turks are just assimilated Anatolians with no Turkic heritage, as if Turkic migration never happened and people just started speaking Turkish by themselves.

    All Turks have Central Asian Oghuz heritage, the rest of results show how much those Oghuzes were mixed with Anatolians.

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    I expected more Q and R1b (especially the Q), because if I'm not wrong, they are most common haplogroups in Turkmenistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brommando View Post
    I expected more Q and R1b (especially the Q), because if I'm not wrong, they are most common haplogroups in Turkmenistan.
    AFAIK that study only has like 50 Turkmens.

    Also majority of Turkics have more "Turkic" mt-dna than Y-dna for some reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    No one says Anatolian Turks are pure Turkics, it's you guys who keep saying Turks are just assimilated Anatolians with no Turkic heritage, as if Turkic migration never happened and people just started speaking Turkish by themselves.

    All Turks have Central Asian Oghuz heritage, the rest of results show how much those Oghuzes were mixed with Anatolians.
    Anatolian Turks have Turkic ancestors but question is how many.
    Anatolian Turks are 7-10% mongoloid on average (Turks from Istanbul and Thrace even less), and Oghuz Turks who settled in Anatolia in XI century were probably 50% mongoloids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramos View Post
    Anatolian Turks have Turkic ancestors but question is how many.
    Anatolian Turks are 7-10% mongoloid on average (Turks from Istanbul and Thrace even less), and Oghuz Turks who settled in Anatolia in XI century were probably 50% mongoloids.
    the average Turkish mongoloid dna varies from person to person. However, average is actually higher i believe. It should be around 5-15%. Some Turks score below that some Turks score above that.







    And Turkmens on Gedmatch spreadsheets are 20-40% Mongoloid on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudayar View Post
    the average Turkish mongoloid dna varies from person to person. However, average is actually higher i believe.







    And Turkmens on Gedmatch spreadsheets are 20-40% Mongoloid on average.
    Oghuz were probably more mongoloid than modern Turkmens because Turkmens were mixed with Persians.
    15-18% mongoloid is rare amomg Turkish people, and it is present only among Yoruks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudayar View Post
    AFAIK that study only has like 50 Turkmens.

    Also majority of Turkics have more "Turkic" mt-dna than Y-dna for some reasons.
    One reason is a mass migration. Warriors conquered the lands and regular people moved to those lands. So it's normal if the women were the majority of those regular peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramos View Post
    Oghuz were probably more mongoloid than modern Turkmens because Turkmens were mixed with Persians.
    15-18% mongoloid is rare amomg Turkish people, and it is present only among Yoruks.
    15-18% is present among non Yörüks too. For example: Giresun. The highest average is around 15%. Lowest average should be around 7%.

    Also Oghuzes were not mongoloid than Turkmens. There's still no evidence for that. Only some Turkmens are mixed with Persians. But some Turkmens also mixed with Kazakhs too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramos View Post
    Oghuz were probably more mongoloid than modern Turkmens because Turkmens were mixed with Persians.
    15-18% mongoloid is rare amomg Turkish people, and it is present only among Yoruks.
    I am no Yörük.

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus_Gedrosia 37.57
    2 Southern 26.24
    3 Atlantic_Baltic 17.19
    4 Siberian 8.88
    5 East_Asian 6.57
    6 South_Asian 2.77
    7 Amerindian 0.4
    8 Australasian 0.33
    9 African 0.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Turks (Behar) 8.66
    2 Turkish (Dodecad) 9.8
    3 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 10.97
    4 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 13.16
    5 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 13.48
    6 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 14.53
    7 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 14.75
    8 Adygei (HGDP) 15.05
    9 Armenians (Behar) 15.15
    10 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.47
    11 Iranians (Behar) 17.78
    12 Kurd (Dodecad) 18.05
    13 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 18.23
    14 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 18.44
    15 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 18.74
    16 Uzbekistan_Jews 18.85
    17 Georgians (Behar) 19.53
    18 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.62
    19 Armenians (Yunusbayev) 19.91
    20 Cypriots (Behar) 20.59

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brommando View Post
    One reason is a mass migration. Warriors conquered the lands and regular people moved to those lands. So it's normal if the women were the majority of those regular peoples.
    The best example is Kyrgyz migration.

    Their mongoloid mt dna is around 60% and y-dna is around 20%


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