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    Quote Originally Posted by Lluna Plena View Post
    https://ciutadaniadecatalunya.cat/20...-des-malfrats/

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    A pesar de estas graves violaciones de los principios cardinales de la democracia que son, teóricamente, los suyos, Europa se calla, Emmanuel Macron se calla, Angela Merkel se calla.
    Sale entonces esta formidable pregunta: ¿las élites europeas habrán decidido en pequeño comité de poner fin a la democracia y de hacer de España, con el pretexto del proceso independendista en Cataluña, un laboratorio experimental de control de la voluntad popular?.
    En cualquier caso, una certitud existe: Europa se calla y ese silencio es cómplice del asesinato de la democracia en Cataluña.
    Francia la jacobina está muda, olvidando que ella es la patria de los derechos humanos. Alemania se calla, olvidando que Cataluña es amiga de Europa y quiere pertenecer a ella. La Europa de Juncker se calla, olvidando que ella es la tierra de la libertad de expresión y el principio de la separación de poderes. Y Suiza se calla, olvidando que Cataluña quiere tomarla como modelo.
    Esos silencios son canallas y matones.
    ¡Despertemos!.
    Un saludo a todos aquellos que desean realmente la supervivencia de la democracia.
    If you think the EU has ever cared about democracy then you don't know much about the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    If you think the EU has ever cared about democracy then you don't know much about the EU.
    Although Spain is not a paradigm of democracy in separation of powers, catalan independists have shit in democracy many times during their race to independence.
    And besides they've deceived their followers in the full knowledge they were doing that as they have recognized many times already.

    What a bunch of cynics... one has to be very fool to still believe in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    Although Spain is not a paradigm of democracy in separation of powers, catalan independists have shit in democracy many times during their race to independence.
    And besides they've deceived their followers in the full knowledge they were doing that as they have recognized many times already.

    What a bunch of cynics... one has to be very fool to still believe in them.
    An actual democracy doesn't exist anywhere. People just say that word because they value the concept (when It's over something they want). The US is associated with democracy even though we're a republic. If the majority of people in any US state voted for independence it wouldn't be accept by the US government even though constitutionally speaking every US state has the right to secede. Ask people from southern states how well that worked out when they pursued their constitutional right. They were literally living under a federal army for a decade.

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    En esta conferencia encontraremos la respuesta al origen sagrado del pueblo íbero(vasco/navarro/catalan) y de IBERIA; y sobre todo; comprenderemos con datos científicos el verdadero origen del pueblo vasco y de su lengua, el euskera.
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    GENETICISTS are shedding light on a turbulent era in Dark Ages Scotland as new research unravels the ancestral DNA linking the lost kingdom of Strathclyde, Picts and one in every 100 Welsh men.

    The latest findings come after the team behind the Scotland's DNA project launched in Wales in September.

    Since then, researchers have discovered a new Y chromosome lineage that accounts for about one per cent of all Welsh fatherlines - a genetic marker that can be traced back through generations of fathers and sons.


    The grouping, which has been nicknamed "the men of the North", has yet to be found outside Wales but has been shown to be related in the last 2,000 years or so to a group concentrated in Scotland that shows descent from the Picts.

    Some 10 per cent of all Scottish men belong to this "Pictish" lineage compared to just 0.8 per cent of Englishmen. It is particularly concentrated in Perthshire, Fife, Angus and Grampian, regions of Scotland with known Pictish heritage.

    The discovery of shared ancestral ties between men in Scotland and Wales is at the centre of a new theory that this one per cent of Welsh men are direct descendents of a small band of ancient Scottish aristocrats, who fled the Old Welsh-speaking kingdom of Strathclyde in the ninth century to escape a Viking invasion.

    They are thought to have headed south, by sea, to find refuge in north Wales after the Viking kings Ivar and Olaf led their dragonships up the Clyde in 870, laying siege to the fortress on Dumbarton Rock and eventually capturing Artgul, the king of Strathclyde.

    Alistair Moffat, historian and co-founder of Scotland's DNA, said: "The nobility of Strathclyde was quite often Pictish and several scholars believe that several kings of Strathclyde were Picts.

    "After the siege of Dumbarton Rock it was this top slice of society who went to Wales. They are the ones chased out by the Vikings in 870, and that's why the Pictish Y chromosome DNA has ended up in Wales."


    Researchers are working to create a genetic map of Britain, and hope that as further samples come in from men in Wales and Scotland, the DNA overlaps between the two nations will become clearer.http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1...n_to_Scotland/

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    La sangre de las islas
    "Estudio genético de la población británica que muestra que la influencia ibérica(vasca/navarra/catalana) es mucho más importante que otras

    Estos datos se cohonestan con las tradiciones orales celtas de Eire (Irlanda), como la compilada en el siglo XI en el Libro de las Invasiones, el "Leabhar Ghabhála Érem" " https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Sykes

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