Classify Serdar Aziz

**tahir0010** · 12-08-2017, 02:28 AM

Turkish Footballer Serdar Aziz. I have not found much of his family history except that he is from Bursa. Do you think that he looks more Turk or more european also what do you think is his phenotype?

**tahir0010** · 12-08-2017, 02:50 AM

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**Columella** · 12-08-2017, 08:32 AM

local Nordic probably a subtle overlap between NOrdic and Iranian. I Guess metrically would easily fit Uk-Eire.

In this cherry picked photo he could easily pass in Sweden

**ariel** · 12-08-2017, 08:37 AM

He look like chechen

**tahir0010** · 12-08-2017, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Columella

local Nordic probably a subtle overlap between NOrdic and Iranian. I Guess metrically would easily fit Uk-Eire.

In this cherry picked photo he could easily pass in Sweden

But what would be chance of a nord making it to turkey? I'm guessing his family has been there a very long time as his name is turkish and last name aziz is an Arabic word but also turkish. Is it possibly that he could be a Montenegro who came during time of ottoman or does he not fit normal phenotype for someone from Montenegro

**Knight Slayer** · 12-08-2017, 04:03 PM

He is most likely a descendant of a Nordic Janissary pulled from Serbia, no doubt. Similar to Muhammed Suicmez....

Our friend Serdar is a Tronder.

**Odin** · 12-08-2017, 08:35 PM

Trønder.

**tahir0010** · 12-09-2017, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Knight Slayer

He is most likely a descendant of a Nordic Janissary pulled from Serbia, no doubt. Similar to Muhammed Suicmez....

Our friend Serdar is a Tronder.

So you think his family migrated from nord to serbia and during time of Ottomans was brought to Turkey? Would the Nord phenotype still be that strong though? I did not think that serbians were usually this white.

**Knight Slayer** · 12-12-2017, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by tahir0010

So you think his family migrated from nord to serbia and during time of Ottomans was brought to Turkey? Would the Nord phenotype still be that strong though? I did not think that serbians were usually this white.

Nordid was much more widespread in the past. It's possible he is descended from Austria, Germany, even Poland. It's impossible to know.

**tahir0010** · 12-13-2017, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by Knight Slayer

Nordid was much more widespread in the past. It's possible he is descended from Austria, Germany, even Poland. It's impossible to know.

His father does look more eastern european. If you look at the top picture the three guys the older guy on the right is his father. His father does look like a serbian or bosnian. He however looks much more nordid.