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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Abominacion View Post
    preserve their race [...] includes securing the demographics of their ethnic homeland.
    Lmmask you sumthin, Rig. How you personally gonna preserve your own race (all 4 of them)?

    (Stellar soundbite through and through though, dawg. Based, redpilled, Upboated, and posted on my aunt's facebook wall.)

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    Only if you don't belong to the self-styled Chosen People.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KuriousKatKommittee View Post
    Lmmask you sumthin, Rig. How you personally gonna preserve your own race (all 4 of them)?

    (Stellar soundbite through and through though, dawg. Based, redpilled, Upboated, and posted on my aunt's facebook wall.)
    Celibacy

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    Not racist but racialist.

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    It is not only racist but also nazi thing to profess.

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    Not at all, after all it is a personal choice. However you should only do it if you truly want to, not cause your political ideology says so. Otherwise you'll live a very unhappy life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I just had a discussion with Mingle in a other thread, and I think this deserves a own thread. It seems many agree its not racist, even non-whites agree. But I think its racist, because? I read a article where some golden dawn members said "fuck off greece this is our holy land you are breathing greek air, we dont want you to breath our greek air", whats the point of not mixing?
    I don't like to get involved in these kind of discussions but this is such an important point that I cannot avoid to post an answer. if you dont hate other races or have phobia against them why would you want to make a border or segregetate/seperate from them

    Because of what the title of your thread says: to preserve your own ethnicity/race - and extant races and ethnicities in general. Do people want to preserve Amur tigers because they hate, say, Bengal tigers or South China tigers? Different human races have different physical characteristics and I think they are worth preserving. Moreover many people consider race a part of their own identity, and they want to pass that identity and that of their ancestors to the future generations. And race may affect mental characteristics as well, even if this is disputed. The selection process that affected the phenotypes of populations evolved in separate geographical environments may have affected their brain too, along with the rest of their bodies. This is what Nobel Prize James Watson thinks, along with others, and it makes sense on a biological point of view. That is not the same thing as believing that some races are 'superior' or 'better', any more than, say, a Greyhound is better than a Poodle. They are just different, that is. The greyhound is faster, the poodle is better at learning tricks. I don't know how racial differences affect the ability of different populations to integrate in certain societies, but there is at least some evidence that it may be a factor. In any case different races generally express different cultures, and when people with vastly different backgrounds move to a country they have different values, habits, beliefs, ways to handle social interactions etc. This almost always leads to problems and the risk of conflicts. It's understandable that an ethnic group may not want to share their own homeland with people very different from them, that doesn't necessary mean they 'hate' them. If I don't want to live with a woman (or with any woman at that) does it make me a misogynist? If a stranger likes my home and wants to move in and be part of my family, am I a misanthropist if I refuse? Does that mean that i hate strangers? I know that many so called 'white nationalists' are motivated by hate and xenophobia, you just need to look at Stormfront to see that. But that doesn't mean that all of them are.

    Ethnopluralism recognizes the principles that all races have a right to a homeland where they can preserve their racial and ethnic identity. That doesn't mean that all countries should be monoracial/monocultural. But I think that at least every main race (like White Europeans, Sub-Saharian Blacks, NE Asians and others) would deserve one or more homelands where they can preserve their own identity. The world is big enough to house them and to house multiracial and/or multi-ethnic countries as well. If you look at Europe, I think it would be realistically impossible to revert it to the ethnic composition that existed in 1960. Countries that have an extensive colonial history have had a lot of non-white immigration for a long time. Fine. But MUST every European country, even the tiniest Baltic republics or poorest Eastern European nations, become race-mixed and multicultural? And yet if one objects to that he/she is considered a hater and a 'nazi', ie on a par with people who committed mass murder and invaded other countries, denying them those same basic rights they want(ed) for their own people. This sort of moral blackmailing and guilt tactics is what makes me angry when I hear talking about these issues. It's what makes most decent people avoid identitarian ideas, because they make them feel loaded with guilt. So what's left most often are the true haters, those who don't care about ethic issues and even revel in their hate or scorn of other races or ethnicities. This in turns reinforces the idea that all white nationalists (or any other race conscious person) are evil and provide further argument for the proponents of multiculturalism and globalization. It's a kind of moral slippery slope. I also believe that it's the advent of National Socialism in Germany in the '30s that really triggered this process, but that's a long issue that would deserve a thread by itself.

    I also want to add that I don't believe race mixed people should feel ashamed or anything, but I know that some of these people end up with identity issues that certainly don't make their life better, and that doesn't always depend on social stigma, which in most Western countries today is almost absent. I just don't like that each and every one country on Earth becomes populated by race mixed people, which slowly but surely replace the original populations. Of course I realize that by now it's probably too late, at least for Europe.

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    It's only racist if you are White. Otherwise it is not because that would mean that 90% of people are racists.

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    Which ethnicity would someone like me be preserving and how?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Only if you don't belong to the self-styled Chosen People.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westbrook View Post
    Which ethnicity would someone like me be preserving and how?
    You get the idea. A certain group that originates in the Levant but who are now pretty much rootless cosmopolitans only seek to preserve their own group at the expense of all others.



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