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    Quote Originally Posted by Proud Human View Post
    Can you tell me the reason of our creation?
    The reason of our creation? Well that is a deep question... what exactly do you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The reason of our creation? Well that is a deep question... what exactly do you mean?
    Why did God create us? I am excatly asking this.

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    See, I tried being a Catholic, but ya know, I aint got time to sit through hours and hours of shit I really dont care about. Its like Christianity never clicked and I never understood how anyone could honestly believe in some dead zombie rabbi that the Romans nailed to a cross 2,000 years ago. Of course there is some scriptual answer to everything and 9/10 times its something you cant refute because its based on the idea that the son of some deity killed himself. No ones even sure if this deity can even be described as man-like and he sent some heavenly minion to impregnate some random poor ass Jewish girl, who might I add, was already married *cough* adultery.

    I mean it hurts my head as much as Greek mythology. I cant follow it. Theres too much confusing bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proud Human View Post
    Why did God create us? I am excatly asking this.
    That's God's business, and the Work of the Cosmos ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armenian Bishop View Post
    That's God's business, and the Work of the Cosmos ...
    Sounds so dogmatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proud Human View Post
    Why did God create us? I am excatly asking this.
    As I understand it, ultimately for his glory. But I am glad he created us. I'm glad to be alive, and especially to be alive and know God! There are many mysteries we don't yet know, and I believe our current lives as mortal humans on earth is a temporary phase to go through... But as to your question, I don't have the exact answer to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CertifiedCracker View Post
    See, I tried being a Catholic, but ya know, I aint got time to sit through hours and hours of shit I really dont care about. Its like Christianity never clicked and I never understood how anyone could honestly believe in some dead zombie rabbi that the Romans nailed to a cross 2,000 years ago. Of course there is some scriptual answer to everything and 9/10 times its something you cant refute because its based on the idea that the son of some deity killed himself. No ones even sure if this deity can even be described as man-like and he sent some heavenly minion to impregnate some random poor ass Jewish girl, who might I add, was already married *cough* adultery.

    I mean it hurts my head as much as Greek mythology. I cant follow it. Theres too much confusing bullshit.
    Jesus not only died, but he also rose from the dead. And he did it all for us.. so that we could be reconciled to God. It is not a complicated story, children can understand it. But it's the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proud Human View Post
    Can you tell me the reason of our creation?
    Are you again pretending to be an atheist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proud Human View Post
    Can you tell me the reason of our creation?
    To experience individuality. All things, including the souls of individuals, are "fractals" of God - the "Whole."

    As spirit beings, all humans participated in the creation of the universe. Everything in the universe was first created in spirit and then recreated in the physical.

    In the beginning there was a sea of spirit and it filled all of space. The spirit was static, content, and aware of itself. It was a giant resting on the bosom of its thought and contemplating what it is.

    Then the spirit moved into action. It withdrew into itself until all of space was empty. In the center, the sparkling mind of the spirit shone. This was the beginning of the individuality of the spirit. This was what the spirit discovered itself to be when it awakened. This spirit was God.

    God desired self-expression and desired companionship; therefore, God projected the cosmos and souls. The cosmos was built with music, arithmetic, geometry, harmony, system, and balance. The building blocks were all of the same material - the life essence - God simply changed the wavelength and rate of vibration of these building blocks thereby creating the patterns for multitudes of life forms. This action resulted in the law of diversity which supplied endless patterns.

    The pattern God used to create souls was the pattern of God's own Spirit. The spirit is life. From the spirit, the mind builds patterns. From the mind, the physical creation is the result. This is how the spirit, the mind, and individuality, became the pattern for souls. This is how cause, action, and effect became the pattern for everything. First there was the spirit (the first cause); then there was the action which withdrew spirit into itself; then there was the resulting individuality of God.

    The spirit of the individual existed before the soul of the individual was created. The spirit keeps the knowledge of its identity with God. The soul has the ability to experience the activities of the mind in a manner separate from God.

    Thus, new individuals issued from God and remained dependent upon God; but individuals were also aware of an existence apart from God. Individuals were given the power to choose (free will) and direct their own activity. Without free will, it would only remain a part of the individuality of God. The mind, issuing as a force from God, would naturally fulfill God's thoughts unless directed otherwise. The power to do this - to direct the force of mind individually from God - is free will. And the record or memory of this freedom is the soul. The soul began with its first expression of free will through the force of mind. The first thought the spirit generated from free will - the first diversion of the force of mind from its normal path of unity with God - was the beginning of the soul.

    Thus, the soul consists of two states of consciousness: (1) the spirit which bears a knowledge of its identity with God, and (2) the soul which bears a knowledge of everything it experienced.

    The plan for the soul is a cycle of experience unlimited in scope and duration. Through this evolutionary cycle, the soul will come to know the creation in all its aspects at the discretion of the will. The cycle would be completed when the desire of the will was no longer different from the thought of God. The consciousness of the soul would then merge with its spiritual consciousness of its identity with God. Then the soul will return to its source as the companion it was intended to be without losing its individuality.

    As a companion, the soul would remain conscious of its separate individuality and would be aware of its own free will as it now acted as a part of God, but not diverting its mind because it was in agreement with God's influence on the mind of the soul. Until this state of at-one-ment was reached, the soul would not be a companion in the true sense of the word.

    The plan for the soul included experiencing of all creation, but it did not necessarily mean participating in all forms and substance. Nor did it mean souls can interfere with the creation. Nor did it mean souls are to spin their own little worlds, twisting and bending laws to make images of their dreams.

    But these things could happen. The soul was the greatest thing God made because it has free will. Once free will was given, God did nothing to curb it. However it acted, it had to act within God's reality. By whatever route, the soul will return to God.

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