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    If we were going to split Europe into North and South,, Where would you place France?

    I am thinking some parts are more Southern and others Northern,, However, the Capital Paris is in the North and Belgium speaks French. France does however join the other southern EU states when they have Southern European conferences.

    Greece eyes alliance of southern EU states September conference planned with France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Cyprus and Malta.

    I would overall probably put France in the Northern category.

    Please French members comment and join the conversation you would know more than I do for sure.

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    Depends on the region.



    Blue: Germanic.
    Purple: Med.

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    With the exception of Alsace, Brittany, and French Flanders, South.

    They're Romance-speaking and Catholic, and plot south of all NW and NE European groups

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    Southern France would be in Southern Europe whereas Northern France would be in Northern Europe. But France as a whole would be more of a northern European country since it's closest to the UK, Benelux, and Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    Depends on the region.



    Blue: Germanic.
    Purple: Med.

    I am sure France is more mixed than just lumping it as South-Med and North-Germanic.

    Europeans are quite mixed between subraces you will find Nordid in many places and the same with Meds. I assume you are not being literal as not all Germanics are Nordid and not all Latins are Meds. Nothing is that simple, Italy is the best example of that there is a large mix of subraces there despite what people say on here. France is somewhat the same just not as much.

    Celtic being Alpine and Meds being just Roman/Latins,, Germanic being Nordids. Is this actually evidence that supports these assumptions?? Many Romans based on their bust look CM also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    I am sure France is more mixed than just lumping it as South-Med and North-Germanic.
    Thanks to mass third-world immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    Europeans are quite mixed between subraces you will find Nordid in many places and the same with Meds. I assume you are not being literal as not all Germanics are Nordid and not all Latins are Meds.
    Nordids and Meds are just phenotypes.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    Nothing is that simple, Italy is the best example of that there is a large mix of subraces there despite what people say on here. France is somewhat the same just not as much.
    I'd say there's more ACTUAL Germanic admixture in France though, than Italy or other parts of Southern Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    Celtic being Alpine and Meds being just Roman/Latins,, Germanic being Nordids. Is this actually evidence that supports these assumptions?? Many Romans based on their bust look CM also.
    You are confusing phenotypes and genotypes again. Personally, I think R1b-U152/J2 account for the Latin types in France, and R1b U106 and I1 for the Germanic types in France.

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    Around 50/50 I would say, and it has nothing to do with Germanic settlement because Celts and Italics were originally Northern too, but they mixed more with Non-Indo-European Mediterranean populations descended from Neolithic farmers of Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    Thanks to mass third-world immigration.



    Nordids and Meds are just phenotypes.



    I'd say there's more ACTUAL Germanic admixture in France though, than Italy or other parts of Southern Europe.



    You are confusing phenotypes and genotypes again. Personally, I think R1b-U152/J2 account for the Latin types in France, and R1b U106 and I1 for the Germanic types in France.
    I do not know much about the genetic stuff I just know based on history many Europeans are all mixed up from centuries of mingling. The royals engaged in it also as many were related.

    I agree France certainly has more Nordid influence , my point was Italy ,I think, is the best example of country that has a multitude of subraces living there. France is more coherent that is for sure.

    Phenotypes and subraces are sometimes misleading in definition. Even the definition of a Med Proper says it is possible for a Med to have blue eyes and blond hair. Which most people would think is a bit silly but anthropology involves so much more than many think. Nothing is ever that simple I guess.

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