European Sub-ethnic Groups

[Mingle]

OMG you added Wallons as French sub ethnic ?

I thought you meant them, lol. Flemings are a Dutch subgroup not a French subgroup.

Walloons aren't ethnic French? Should I edit that?

What is your describtion of "sub ethnic" exactly ?

They are not their own distinct people group, but they have enough differences to be seen as somewhat different from mainstream members of the group. I'm poor at defining it so I gave examples.

Because according to that, Normans are on the same level as Bretons, Alsatians, Basques and Corsicans.

They are part of France but not really ethnic French. Saying that Basques are ethnic French because they have land in France is like saying that Kurds are a subgroup of ethnic Turks because their land is part of Turkey.

I don't know if Normans are on the same level as them. The reason I added Normans was cause the traditional language of Normandy (Norman language) is descended from Old French. If you feel they shouldn't be added there, then you can say so.

(Btw, after a number of days passes, I won't be able to edit the OP anymore, so if some groups don't make the list, they shouldn't fret)

[Laberia]

I didn't mention Ghegs and Tosks cause it seemed redundant to mention them since all the subgroups are either Gheg or Tosk. They also seem like too mainstream to mention. Btw, do you know how the Gheg and Tosk identities first developed?

Not exactly. Scholars, in order to simplify the situation make this division in Geg and Tosk, as you can see even from this map of Albanian dialects:

But Labs or Liapis and Chams are not exactly Tosks.

N. G. L. HAMMOND
Ethnogenesis of the Albanians

Related families were the units which made up a tribe, and there were very many small tribes, especially in the mountains where each narrow valley lived a life apart from its neighbour. In their turn the tribes were the units which made up the tribal groups or large tribes, of which there were never more than four in all Albania. Each group spoke a marked dialect and had its own peculiarities of dress and its own customs (4). These four groups were Gegs in the north, Tosks in the centre and south, Ljaps in the southwest, and Tsams in areas on both sides of the frontier between Albania and Greece in Epirus (5).... ...Some scholars regard Ljap and Tsam as sub-dialects of Tosk, but the tribes themselves seem to have been distinct from the Tosks...

Also you have to add the Albanians in Ukraine.

[Mingle]

Slavic Macedonian (forgot two)
• Mijak
• Brsjak

[Peterski]

More on Polish sub-groups (I posted several dozen small ethnographic sub-groups):

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4940099

[ggmaustria]

In Austria they have so many different ethnics from the past and they still keep its tradition village to village. I will ask some friend exactly the ethnic they have and i will post it.
They recommend me a English a website of Austria that in each town they talk a bit from the past
I remmenber Cilistheniac and Basin from Viena.

[Mingle]

In Austria they have so many different ethnics from the past and they still keep its tradition village to village. I will ask some friend exactly the ethnic they have and i will post it.
They recommend me a English a website of Austria that in each town they talk a bit from the past
I remmenber Cilistheniac and Basin from Viena.

Austrian isn't really an ethnicity. And sub-ethnic group is different from subgroup.

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