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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    How do you explain virtually all their paintings showing them as brown-haired Meds then?

    They may have been described as red-haired cause they had a higher frequency of it relative to their region. They also could have gotten it from mixing with Scythians.
    Well because what kind of idiots would describe a non-red-haired people as extremely red-haired. Also, again, if their gods are red-haired, it would be rather odd for them to not at the very least stem from a very rufous population, which is very un-Slavic like.

    "Several Thracian graves or tombstones have the name Rufus inscribed on them, meaning "redhead" – a common name given to people with red hair. Ancient Greek artwork often depicts Thracians as redheads. Rhesus of Thrace, a mythological Thracian King, derived his name because of his red hair and is depicted on Greek pottery as having red hair and beard. Ancient Greek writers also described the Thracians as red haired. A fragment by the Greek poet Xenophanes describes the Thracians as blue-eyed and red haired:

    ...Men make gods in their own image; those of the Ethiopians are black and snub-nosed, those of the Thracians have blue eyes and red hair.

    Bacchylides described Theseus as wearing a hat with red hair, which classicists believe was Thracian in origin. Other ancient writers who described the hair of the Thracians as red include Hecataeus of Miletus, Galen, Clement of Alexandria, and Julius Firmicus Maternus.

    Nevertheless, academic studies have concluded that peoples had different physical features than the described by primary sources. Ancient authors described as red-haired varieties of peoples, they claimed that all Slavs had red-hair, likewise described the Scythians, which is diminished as incorrect. According to (((Dr. Beth Cohen))), Thracians had "the same dark hair and the same facial features as the Ancient Greeks." Recent genetic analysis comparing mtDNA samples of ancient Thracian fossil material from southeastern Romania with individuals from modern ethnicities place Italian (7.9%), the Albanian (6.3%) and the Greek (5.8%) have shown a bias of closer genetic kinship with the Thracian individuals than the Romanian and Bulgarian individuals (4.2%), but it was noted that more mtDNA sequences from Thracian individuals are needed in order to perform a complex objective statistical analysis. On the other hand, Dr. Aris N. Poulianos states that Thracians, like modern Bulgarians, belong mainly to the Aegean anthropological type."


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    Etruscans, who called themselves Raseni even today call themselves Rašani (Modern Day Serbia).

    Do I need to remind you that Emperor Trajan Decius from Sremska Mitrovica married Etruscan woman whom he found in Mitrovica she was Called Jerenija Etrušćanka

    How did he found Etruscan woman in Serbia?

    It's obvious that Etruscan were Thracians.

    also Etruscan language, and this sentense that begins:

    ITAT MIA IKAK HE.... even today is said as:
    "I TA MOJA KAKVE JE?" in Serbian

    I mean... Similarity is BRUTAL!

    But people are quick to dismiss..

    Also this map made by sovereign YDNA mapper of ancient dna shows I2a1 in Etruria:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Ancient Thracian words in comparison to modern South Slavic group.

    Is this enough to conclude the possibility of "slavic origins" on Balkans?


    From the 30 additional words extracted from the Thracian toponyms and hydronyms 30 have very good matches in Bulgarian and the other Slavic languages. Lithuanian offers 16 matches, Greek 13, Latin 5 and English 4. We can see that again the Slavic languages offer the most and the best matches.

    The resemblance of many names is so strikingly close that it can’t be called coincidence. And if we consider the fact that Thracian words were documented about 2000 years ago, it will not be an exaggeration to say that in fact they are identical with the Slavic ones. The comparision presented in the Tables 1, 2 and 3 has never been made by any scientist, who studied the ancient Thracian culture. That is why now we have the wrong impression that Thracians have disappeared into thin air and the Slavs came to the lands south of the Danube as invaders


    Nobody has brought to attention the similarity of the Thracian and Old Slavic pantheon. In my opinion, Thracian Perkun corresponds to Slavic Perun, Thracian Seitovins to Slavic Sventovit, Thracian Ares to Slavic Jarovit, Thracian Balenos to Slavic Belen, Thracian Kerilos to Slavic Černobog, Thracian Zemi Zemela to Slavic Zemina Mati
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    Sira Zemlja. Even the common Slavic word for God – BOG is in fact the same as the Thracian one - BAGO – God. It





    Have you wondered were and when those Thracian words are attested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    Thracians were described as extremely red-headed by virtually every ancient author, I extremely doubt they were related to Slavs
    That isn't true. The term 'πυρρός' meant literally 'flame-colored'. It could have meant anything between 'yellowish red' and 'tawny' (brownish-orange).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    Well because what kind of idiots would describe a non-red-haired people as extremely red-haired. Also, again, if their gods are red-haired, it would be rather odd for them to not at the very least stem from a very rufous population, which is very un-Slavic like.

    "Several Thracian graves or tombstones have the name Rufus inscribed on them, meaning "redhead" – a common name given to people with red hair. Ancient Greek artwork often depicts Thracians as redheads. Rhesus of Thrace, a mythological Thracian King, derived his name because of his red hair and is depicted on Greek pottery as having red hair and beard. Ancient Greek writers also described the Thracians as red haired. A fragment by the Greek poet Xenophanes describes the Thracians as blue-eyed and red haired:

    ...Men make gods in their own image; those of the Ethiopians are black and snub-nosed, those of the Thracians have blue eyes and red hair.

    Bacchylides described Theseus as wearing a hat with red hair, which classicists believe was Thracian in origin. Other ancient writers who described the hair of the Thracians as red include Hecataeus of Miletus, Galen, Clement of Alexandria, and Julius Firmicus Maternus.

    Nevertheless, academic studies have concluded that peoples had different physical features than the described by primary sources. Ancient authors described as red-haired varieties of peoples, they claimed that all Slavs had red-hair, likewise described the Scythians, which is diminished as incorrect. According to (((Dr. Beth Cohen))), Thracians had "the same dark hair and the same facial features as the Ancient Greeks." Recent genetic analysis comparing mtDNA samples of ancient Thracian fossil material from southeastern Romania with individuals from modern ethnicities place Italian (7.9%), the Albanian (6.3%) and the Greek (5.8%) have shown a bias of closer genetic kinship with the Thracian individuals than the Romanian and Bulgarian individuals (4.2%), but it was noted that more mtDNA sequences from Thracian individuals are needed in order to perform a complex objective statistical analysis. On the other hand, Dr. Aris N. Poulianos states that Thracians, like modern Bulgarians, belong mainly to the Aegean anthropological type."

    I read somewhere that the Thracians were described as red headed by the Greeks because the Greeks wanted to stress their difference compared to the Greeks. In short: red haired, light haired = barbarian UNLIKE dark hair/dark eyes = Greeks = civilised. In reality Thracians couldn't have been red haired, they surely were mainly dark haired/dark eyed like present-day Bulgarians. They couldn't have been much different compared to the Greeks: yes they were different tribes but they have been neighbours for millenias... In reality genetically Thracians have contributed immensely to Bulgarians and Greeks and Romanians and thats why the three people are similar. In Greek case: mainly in northeastern Greece.

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    Update to OP

    1. Thracian symbol of "Perkun" = "Perun"




    2. Thracian/Illyrian Shields:





    This is one of the Best profs that so called "South Slavs" are Thracians.

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    If South Slavs are Starcevo descended why not?

    Thracians were using many different symbols. Some of them are same with Greeks.

    Kazanluk_1.jpg

    Also, they were using Labrys. Greek nationalists and Lesbians are used to Labrys symbols as well.

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    Every day when i wake up i look at bosniensis profile to see his new meta ethnicity

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    The way I feel about original post:


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    There are perhaps even more similarities between Thracian and the Baltic languages. One of the main hypotheses is that Thracian belonged to the Balto-Slavic branch of languages.

    Read this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic...ian_hypothesis

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