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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    When you have a strong leader like Trump, Putin, Erdogan.. criminals are afraid to act and therefore economy goes up.
    Trump isn't a strong leader, quite the opposite, but I get what you mean. I don't know too much about Turkey's internal affairs, but I do know Putin, contrary to the way Western media represents it (the same Western media that will complain about the Russian oligarchy with their mouths and yet swoon and fawn over actual Russian oligarchs at the same time), curbed the oligarchs down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    the net minimum wage in Turkey is like 320 euros. Just for your information.
    Since Turkish Lira is constantly losing value against Euro and Dollar, there has been dramatic drop in people's purchase power over last 5 years. So the international (dollar-euro) counterpart of people's salary and savings in Turkey is constantly shrinking and shrinking.
    The alleged growth rate doesnt really reflects on the average people's pockets. I mean workers still live in same conditions.

    Turkey is a country where the gap between the rich and poor is one of the most dramatically high in the world and this gap keeps widening. People are asked to stick to religion not to think about those issues. They say don't question, you pray and when you will die, you will go to heaven.
    The capitalism and liberal market model in Turkey isn't like in Nordic welfare countries, it's more like in the chaotic capitalistic model as described by Marx and Engels.
    America and the EU are waging a currency war against Turkey (as well as many other countries, and among among themselves), of course the value of the lira is going to drop. It is not true that Turkey is one of the countries with the greatest income inequalities in the world per the statistics, by the way. Turkey's GINI index is on part with most of Western Europe. Not that economic measures really means much these days. Ukraine and Albania are some of the most GINI-efficient countries in the world, although it says very little about the actual economic conditions in those two countries. I get the impression you're a "Westernizer", though, so I don't exactly know whether to take you too seriously either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    America and the EU are waging a currency war against Turkey (as well as many other countries, and among among themselves), of course the value of the lira is going to drop. It is not true that Turkey is one of the countries with the greatest income inequalities in the world per the statistics, by the way. Turkey's GINI index is on part with most of Western Europe. Not that economic measures really means much these days. Ukraine and Albania are some of the most GINI-efficient countries in the world, although it says very little about the actual economic conditions in those two countries. I get the impression you're a "Westernizer", though, so I don't exactly know whether to take you too seriously either.
    Wtf you talk about?
    Aren't you immigrant Albanian in Switzerland or so?
    If you really believe Turkey is that great why don't you immigrate here?
    It's easy to talk from where you are when you don't experience it by yourself. What do you suggest to people Turkey, they must pray and don't care after all and wait death to reach paradise?


    Ofc Turkey is better than Albania or Moldova or so those countries were communist until 30 years ago. With a good management since 1960s Turkey could have been like a South Korea or at least it could match with Czechia which is former communistic.

    I don't blame all on Erdogan btw, he is willing to react but what he can do that's anyway limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Wtf you talk about?
    Aren't you immigrant Albanian in Switzerland or so?
    If you really believe Turkey is that great why don't you immigrate here?
    It's easy to talk from where you are when you don't experience it by yourself. What do you suggest to people Turkey, they must pray and don't care after all and wait death to reach paradise?


    Ofc Turkey is better than Albania or Moldova or so those countries were communist until 30 years ago. With a good management since 1960s Turkey could have been like a South Korea or at least it could match with Czechia which is former communistic.

    I don't blame all on Erdogan btw, he is willing to react but what he can do that's anyway limited.
    You can read, can't you? Shouldn't have to repeat what I said. You re-affirm my suspicions, though. By the way, a persona like Erdogan is absolutely needed to develop in the same trajectory South Korea did. Korea had gone through a war where millions died, but Park Chung-hee dragged it out of the ashes.

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    Third Siege of Vienna when?

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    Leave Switzerland and come here, gonna find a job for you. Promised. Then we will see how much you gonna like it.
    There is brain drain in Turkey, highly educated youth leave the country for US, Australia etc.

    If smth isn't perfect you simply must face it, drawing a pink portray and believing in it and getting other people believe in it ... that's no solution.

    Turkey needs a capital influx and Saudis, Emiraties, Kuwaitis don't bring money anymore. That's an issue.
    Qatar wanted to side with Turkey but those other Arabs are punishing them for their care for Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    If he was ruthless he would be done in 3 months in Syria and would have been a hero. He waited for Obama and Obama did nothing. Now 7 years on and 4 million Syrians in Turkey. Telling in the other thread you don't want Syrians in your Balkan countries then coming and writing this here is contradictory. Hypocrisy.
    He's the president of Turkey, not of Syria.



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    You Balkan guys who live in Switzerland and Western Europe are like Islamist Turks who live in Germany.

    You wash and clean German enterprises and factories for 2000 euros / month, you have good salary you wouldn't get in BiH, Albania or Turkey.
    Where you live you are maybe second class because of your identity.

    So the only thing you care about is to gain psychological comforts for what you are mistreated by Westerner natives for: your religion, your identity.
    And consequently, since you don't care for welfare (you have it in the West) you look at things from sole ideological point of view since you guys are Islamists at various levels.

    It's why you don't understand the reality of life.
    You tell people okay things are economically perfect so don't make noise and just follow. Maybe for you personally things are fine but you must empathize and try to understand how things are in Turkey or also Balkan countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    Third Siege of Vienna when?
    Siege of Istanbul when?

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    Nvm what I posted here earlier, Russia is doing decent to be fair .

    https://knoema.com/sijweyg/world-gdp...harts-forecast
    Last edited by Albobalboa; 12-14-2017 at 01:36 PM.

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