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Thread: What Is Your Opinion of the European Union?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turul Karom View Post
    Absolute garbage. The EU Army will be used only against the nation states that would want to leave the EU or resist Brussels' encroachment. NATO is large enough to fight any intruder in Europe, and this force includes the USA and other non-EU countries. So the idea of an EU army being a "larger" force is incorrect. The EU already operates closely together in an inter-military fashion, and some regions already band together to fight and train their units under one command structure (exmple: The Nordic Battle Group). There is no reason to have this "EU Army" except as a tool of intimidation.

    I have been saying for years, what the argument is between anti-EU and pro-EU peoples boils down to a singular question: do you support removing the sovereignty of the member nations in order to create a Federal United States of Europe, or do you support the independence and sovereignty of European nations?

    All other talking points, economics, immigration, etc, are merely secondary to the inevitable end-question of the EU and its goals.

    Do you know what surrendering your independence will do? It will allow you far less control over your fate. If you counter with the false argument, "Hungary is already small and has a small voice.", realize, that we make up 1.9% of the EU's population. We will have even less of a say in the EU if we join a federation. We will be pointless in elections, in economics, etc, and our land will be a dumping ground for their failed policies. EU federalism would be the death of the Magyar nation, and many other Eastern countries as well.

    The EU will keep on failing as it attempts to garner support of who it sees at "its" people (subject to constant political winds, of course) until the final call for the ultimate decision: to federalize, or not to federalize. If you think that the EU will do more looking outward than inward, you are wrong. Europe is far more diverse than the Anglosphere, and these differences will not go to sleep quietly after the "federalization celebration" ends. The EU army will force itself on anyone who attempts to peacefully leave the country. There is no future for Hungarians in the EU as 1.9% of the population.
    The EU will most likely not survive another financial downturn(recession). The government debt of France and Italy will in the future become a major problem. I just do not see the whole thing staying together long term.

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    I have mixed views on it but I chose positive. I overall like it because the European countries individually are powerless and too over-reliant on the US. When they all unite, they become somewhat of a significant power. The downside to the EU though is their migration policy, but there are a lot more positives that come from EU funding (e.g. research, infrastructure, etc) in addition to being a power on a comparable scale to Russia, China, or the US.

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