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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrong View Post
    In Greece it is correlated with Arvanites. Interesting Arvanite J2b2 % is higher than in Tosks.
    I doubt that it's that high in parts of Greece that were never settled by Arvanites, such as Macedonia or Thrace. But we can see from the map that Corinth and Argolis i.e places that Arvanites settled the most, has a significat portion of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Yh, there is an Arvanite who is J2b2-Y23094 and some others who belong to the PH1751 group. The data used was an amount of scientific studies across Europe mainly
    I think you (or the person who made it) were a little creative. What type of data do you have concerning J2b2-L83 in Greece?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danaan View Post
    I think you (or the person who made it) were a little creative. What type of data do you have concerning J2b2-L83 in Greece?
    I didn't make it, some other person from our project did and it seems pretty good. I knew some people would react like this . The data used is from actual scientific papers of haplotypes in Europe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrentis View Post
    I doubt that it's that high in parts of Greece that were never settled by Arvanites, such as Macedonia or Thrace. But we can see from the map that Corinth and Argolis i.e places that Arvanites settled the most, has a significat portion of it
    The problem is that many Greeks don't even know they have Arvanite ancestry (or Vlach, for that matter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I didn't make it, some other person from our project did and it seems pretty good. I knew some people would react like this . The data used is from actual scientific papers of haplotypes in Europe
    Well, personally I react like this to maps made by Maciamo of Eupedia too, or those made by someone called 'Passa' in Anthrogenica. They are not scientific and guesswork is involved.
    One user (Rob/ Gravetto-Danubian) who is a Slav of some short makes up data too during casual discussions. I wouldn't trust any map made by him either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danaan View Post
    Well, personally I react like this to maps made by Maciamo of Eupedia too, or those made by someone called 'Passa' in Anthrogenica. They are not scientific and guesswork is involved.
    One user (Rob/ Gravetto-Danubian) who is a Slav of some short makes up data too during casual discussions. I wouldn't trust any map made by him either.
    Thing is though that they are based on scientific papers. If you don't want to believe it because you don't like the results then that's not the fault of the guy who made this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I didn't make it, some other person from our project did and it seems pretty good. I knew some people would react like this . The data used is from actual scientific papers of haplotypes in Europe
    Ayo hol up

    I just realized your J1 and not J2. How tf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krampus View Post
    Ayo hol up

    I just realized your J1 and not J2. How tf?
    Rare nigga that's why
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Thing is though that they are based on scientific papers. If you don't want to believe it because you don't like the results then that's not the fault of the guy who made this
    You say that they are based on scientific papers.

    I say that the scientific papers do not provide enough data to create a map like this.

    If the data exist I want to see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danaan View Post
    You say that they are based on scientific papers.

    I say that the scientific papers do not provide enough data to create a map like it.

    If the data exist I want to see them.
    Will ask for the papers. What's so unbelievable about this map?
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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