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    Slovakia's current name (Slovensko) just refers to generic Slavs rather than a particular Slavic tribe. Sometimes, the Slavs that historically inhabited Slovakia are generally referred to as 'Vah Slavs' (named after the Vah River Basin), but that is also not a tribal name but just a name coined to differentiate them. Here is an example:



    Slovaks were also historically called Tóth by Hungarians but that name just referred to generic Slavs (and later Slovaks) rather than a specific tribe. The term Tóth is of Germanic origin meaning "nation/people" (cognate to Deutsch) and came to Hungarian via the Goths (who lived in Slovakia).

    I've also heard that they might have been descended from the "Slavic tribe" known as Moravians, but I doubt there was ever such thing as a Slavic tribe called "Moravians". The only reference to anything related to Moravians is in Byzantine sources regarding Great Morava (Megale Moravia) and it is just a name given by the Byzantines based on their location being around the Morava River rather than it being a tribal name.

    So does anyone know about the existence/records of the names of any Slavic tribes of Slovakia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Slovakia's current name (Slovensko) just refers to generic Slavs rather than a particular Slavic tribe. Sometimes, the Slavs that historically inhabited Slovakia are generally referred to as 'Vah Slavs' (named after the Vah River Basin), but that is also not a tribal name but just a name coined to differentiate them. Here is an example:

    Slovaks were also historically called Tóth by Hungarians but that name just referred to generic Slavs (and later Slovaks) rather than a specific tribe. The term Tóth is of Germanic origin meaning "nation/people" (cognate to Deutsch) and came to Hungarian via the Goths (who lived in Slovakia).

    I've also heard that they might have been descended from the "Slavic tribe" known as Moravians, but I doubt there was ever such thing as a Slavic tribe called "Moravians". The only reference to anything related to Moravians is in Byzantine sources regarding Great Morava (Megale Moravia) and it is just a name given by the Byzantines based on their location being around the Morava River rather than it being a tribal name.

    So does anyone know about the existence/records of the names of any Slavic tribes of Slovakia?
    I don't know for any mentioned tribe there. Is there any culture founded in present-day Slovakia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    I don't know for any mentioned tribe there. Is there any culture founded in present-day Slovakia?
    I don't know about culture, but the Principality of Nitra was from there.

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    Czechs, Poles, Rusyns are the ancestors of the modern day Slovaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    Czechs, Poles, Rusyns are the ancestors of the modern day Slovaks
    Based on what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    I don't know about culture, but the Principality of Nitra was from there.

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    Maybe rised-up also by Moravian tribes, but there are no proofs for something like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Based on what?
    Slovak is the very young ethnonym. Nobody ever heard about the Slovak tribes in the medieval era, because they havent existed.
    that is why before the standard Slovakian dialect was created, slavic population in Upper Hungary could not understand each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    Slovak is the very young ethnonym. Nobody ever heard about the Slovak tribes in the medieval era, because they havent existed.
    that is why before the standard Slovakian dialect was created, slavic population in Upper Hungary could not understand each other.
    Nodoby even heard for Slavs as ethnic group before 5th century, or even Magyars before 8th century, just becouse they "weren't mentioned" before it by Roman chronicles.

    Does it mean that they haven't existed? That is not relevant proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Nodoby even heard for Slavs as ethnic group before 5th century, or even Magyars before 8th century, just becouse they "weren't mentioned" before it by Roman chronicles.

    Does it mean that they haven't existed? That is not relevant proof.
    Wrong. The Rusyns never had own state, but they had known ethnonym even in the medieval era.

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