Slavic tribes of Slovakia

[blogen]

That allude on what according to you?

Rácz Anita: Adatok a népnévvel alakult régi magyar településnevek történetéhez (Data to the old Hungarian toponyms with ethnonyms) - Debrecen University Press, 2011
Rácz Anita: Etnonímák a régi magyar településnevekben (Ethnonyms in the old Hungarian toponyms) - Debrecen University Press, 2016

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Rácz Anita: Adatok a népnévvel alakult régi magyar településnevek történetéhez (Data to the old Hungarian toponyms with ethnonyms) - Debrecen University Press, 2011
Rácz Anita: Etnonímák a régi magyar településnevekben (Ethnonyms in the old Hungarian toponyms) - Debrecen University Press, 2016

Are there translations for both scripts?

[blogen]

Are there translations for both scripts?

These are long lists of the toponyms with the medieval mentions with explanatory parts. Only in Hungarian sadly.

[blogen]

So, there were not Slavic tribes in the Carpathian-basin in the 9th century, only Slavic population. The reasion was simply: the tribe is a political body, while the local political entities were Romans (Germans), Moravians and Bulgarians and not the local peoples products. And when the locals had political body, then they were the Avars and not Slavs! So the local Slavs lived under somebody others rule everytime without own political body.

Maybe the Slavonian Slavs were the only exception with their 9th century principalty, what was part of the Roman Empire (Germans). This is the reason maybe of the Slavonic tribal names' deficiency from this region.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

So the local Slavs lived under somebody others rule everytime without own political body.

Yes, that's true indeed. But i don't know the reason for it. They were under Avar khaganate and they're even liberated from them under Frankish ruler called "Samo", and formed Samo's Empire. I mean in central Europe and partly Balkans.

[Karol Klačansky]

Yes, that's true indeed. But i don't know the reason for it. They were under Avar khaganate and they're even liberated from them under Frankish ruler called "Samo", and formed Samo's Empire. I mean in central Europe and partly Balkans.

Dont even respond to these hungarian fanatics. In the 9th century you had Pribina a slav ruling slavs in nitra. He was taken over by rastislav and svätopluk who were slavs leading other slavs(moravians).these hungarian fanatics will lie at all costs to claim slovaks have no claim to the area. They are delusional and obsessed with trying to tear down slovaks and other former nations of the kingdom of hungary.

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[Vlatko Vukovic]

Dont even respond to these hungarian fanatics. In the 9th century you had Pribina a slav ruling slavs in nitra. He was taken over by rastislav and svätopluk who were slavs leading other slavs(moravians).these hungarian fanatics will lie at all costs to claim slovaks have no claim to the area. They are delusional and obsessed with trying to tear down slovaks and other former nations of the kingdom of hungary.

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Yes. I agree with you too. But there is some truth also that Slavs were usually under other's rule in the 6th-7th centuries. In the 9th century, for example, they had many known rulers of Slavic origin.

[blogen]

Yes, that's true indeed. But i don't know the reason for it. They were under Avar khaganate and they're even liberated from them under Frankish ruler called "Samo", and formed Samo's Empire. I mean in central Europe and partly Balkans.

The Avars rule was solid over the basin until their catastrophe, Samo conquered their vassal territories in the present Czech land and their lands in the Morava valley, but not in the basin. Even the Moravians were conquerors here after the fall of the Kaganate.

And the "liberated" word is a totally fals narrative, the Slavs were the beneficiary of the Avar realm, even their story in the Danube valley and the Balkan started with the Avar conquest and the fall of the German kingdoms. The collapse of the kaganate was a catastrophe for them too, since foreign conquerors came to their territory (Moravians, Bulgarians, Franks). The local Slavs lived in a symbiosis with the Avars culturally and politically. Avaro-Slavic (avar-szláv) is the term to this symbiosis in the archeology.

[Karol Klačansky]

The Avars rule was solid over the basin until their catastrophe, Samo conquered their vassal territories in the present Czech land and their lands in the Morava valley, but not in the basin. Even the Moravians were conquerors here after the fall of the Kaganate.

And the "liberated" word is a totally fals narrative, the Slavs were the beneficiary of the Avar realm, even their story in the Danube valley and the Balkan started with the Avar conquest and the fall of the German kingdoms. The collapse of the kaganate was a catastrophe for them too, since foreign conquerors came to their territory (Moravians, Bulgarians, Franks). The local Slavs lived in a symbiosis with the Avars culturally and politically. Avaro-Slavic (avar-szláv) is the term to this symbiosis in the archeology.

Yea it was so beneficial to them thats why they all united under Samo to defeat them. Moravians were foreigners? What utter nonsense

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[Vlatko Vukovic]

Avaro-Slavic (avar-szláv) is the term to this symbiosis in the archeology.

You mean South Slav, in this case?

Becouse i don't think that early East Slavs, or West Slavs had any kind of "symbiosis" with the Avars.