Slavic tribes of Slovakia

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Rich Avar burials from the Balkan is the only sign of the Avar aristocracy's presence at this time. But this is a solid sign, so presumably the early South-Slav leaders were partially Avar origin. The Avars ruled the Balkan directly after the Avaro-Byzantine wars and the Balkan was not part of the Avar kaganate later. They destroyed the Byzantine power over the peninsula, but basically not for himself. The South-Slavs history started with their war, but without them.

The first Slavs arrived to the Carpathian-basin under the Avar rule, their migration was part of the Avars antibyzantine policy (Slavic settlers to the former Byzantine land, agaist the Byzantine reconquest). But their ancestors were not wandering towards to south, but settled under the direct Avar rule besides the various German and Roman elements and this was the reality for them in next two hundreds of years. The Kaganate was the country, the home for the Pannonian, Highlander and Transsylvanian Slavs.

So, my conclusion is that East Slavs and West Slavs didn't have connection with Avar khaganate ?! while pannonian Slavs had, and partially South Slavs.

There is some evidance, i can't find now, that Croats and Serbs are paid by Byzantium to fight Avars, and that's the reason why they migrated from White Serbia/White Croatia towards the Balkans.

[Stears]

So, my conclusion is that East Slavs and West Slavs didn't have connection with Avar khaganate ?! while pannonian Slavs had, and partially South Slavs.

There is some evidance, i can't find now, that Croats and Serbs are paid by Byzantium to fight Avars, and that's the reason why they migrated from White Serbia/White Croatia towards the Balkans.

panonnian slavs were southern slavs. they had no relations with the so called slovaks

[Karol Klačansky]

panonnian slavs were southern slavs. they had no relations with the so called slovaks

yea sure, thats why most linguists see evidence of a genetic continuum between slovak and south slavic languages that predated the invasion of the magyars

[Vlatko Vukovic]

panonnian slavs were southern slavs. they had no relations with the so called slovaks

How much you are sure in that?

[Stears]

yea sure, thats why most linguists see evidence of a genetic continuum between slovak and south slavic languages that predated the invasion of the magyars

slovak language has proven southern slavic substratum, and that is because of the panonnian slavs who lived in the carpathian basin.

[Karol Klačansky]

slovak language has proven southern slavic substratum, and that is because of the panonnian slavs who lived in the carpathian basin.

haha what nonsesne. Or its because there was nothing seperating slovaks and southern slavs before maygars came from asia and destroyed everything. Keep spreading around your lies

[Stears]

How much you are sure in that?

they were southern slavs, but not croatians or the slovenes, but indipendent tribe. however slovak nationalists try to prove they were the so called proto slovaks, which is laughable tale.

[blogen]

The moravians and slavs of Nitra were the exact same people at that time period

There is no evidence for this. The Moravians were conquerors here after the fall of the Kaganate. The Moravian ethnonyms as placenames exists only on former Moravian-Bulgarian borderland, etc. The identification of the local Slavs as Moravians is a baseless theory. The Moravian rule over the present Western Slovakia was a clear fact only. The local Slavs lived under Avar rule until 823. They were Avar politically (Slavs or Avaro-Slavs ethnically), their whole leadership were part of the Avar nobilty, they fought with the Avars, they lived with the Avars. After two hundreds of years, the Moravians conquered them for 75 years until the Magyar conquest and they miraculously transformed to Moravians! Pls!

Even the presumably Moravian origin Pribina's faith with their anti-Moravian policy is clear sign of the local's political orientation.

The greatmoravianism is nothing more than the product of the Czech nationalism, a beautiful picture about a mythical Slavonic ethos. The reality was much more different! The Slavs were not a big and happy family. Never.

[blogen]

So, my conclusion is that East Slavs and West Slavs didn't have connection with Avar khaganate ?! while pannonian Slavs had, and partially South Slavs. There is some evidance, i can't find now, that Croats and Serbs are paid by Byzantium to fight Avars, and that's the reason why they migrated from White Serbia/White Croatia towards the Balkans.

A part of the West-Slavs were taxpayers and allies. This is the reason of the Croatian/Serbian white/black question. A part of them were participants of the Avar's antibyzantine policy: the Slavonic migration to the Balkan. But only in the early Avar times presumably. We don't know what was the usual Avar policy towards the West Slavs in the course of the Kaganate after the early times.

Presumably the Morava-valley was a contact zone or sometimes conflict zone between the Avars and the West-Slavs.

[blogen]

haha what nonsesne. Or its because there was nothing seperating slovaks and southern slavs before maygars came from asia and destroyed everything. Keep spreading around your lies

Nothing, only the Avars or Franks. Some powerful entity only.

Stears is a lunatic, but not Stears is the only lunatic in here...