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What would Jomon/Ainu ancestry show up as according to DNA or on Gedmatch?
What do you think?
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Probably within the East Asian/Oceanian population cluster since they are genetically Proto-Mongoloids whom cluster with an ancestral founder effect from Southeast Asia. Seeing that there isn't reference samples for them, it is logical to assume the algorithms would calculate the autosomal snps as an archaic anomaly so it would probably label it as "African" whom are the most genetically distant population from East-Eurasians.
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Wow thnx for the great info, I'll have to read more into this!... Got any online sources/studies to cite, or any Ainu Gedmatch Kit-#s you could share?Originally Posted by de Burgh II
I'm familiar with this paper: http://ir.soken.ac.jp/?action=reposi...d=19&file_no=2 http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5754453/1/ ...What do you think of Pioneer from Anthroscape's assessment regarding this? He states: "The Jomon Japanese are officially now a population between Australoids and Southeast Asians. More precisely, they are most genetically related to Cambodians out of all the populations included in this study. This is clearly evident in the PCA:"
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I would say that his statement is quite valid because places such as Japan/Hokkaido and Sakhalin do have residual Ainu peoples that seems to be some kind of Australoid strain from a founder effect native to S.E. Asia. Nevertheless, it seems the Jomon are a mixture between mongoloids and australoids. Its been 3 years since I've last looked into the Ainu phenomenon so my knowledge on it is limited. Nevertheless, I know they say australoids are most distant genetically from negroids while mongoloids being genetically closest due to the overlapping proximity they have with one another.Wow thnx for the great info, I'll have to read more into this!... Got any online sources/studies to cite, or any Ainu Gedmatch Kit-#s you could share?
I'm familiar with this paper: http://ir.soken.ac.jp/?action=reposi...d=19&file_no=2 http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5754453/1/ ...What do you think of Pioneer from Anthroscape's assessment regarding this? He states: "The Jomon Japanese are officially now a population between Australoids and Southeast Asians. More precisely, they are most genetically related to Cambodians out of all the populations included in this study. This is clearly evident in the PCA:"
Nevertheless, its been postulated that the origins of Mongoloids may have sprung from Southern China via the Peking Man/Homo Erectus hominin whereas australoids evolved in S.E. Asia so the interactions overlapped with one another.
I'll let you know if i find anything on the matter.
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Or "Ancestror"
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i want to be a prot-mogoloid! fuck yes i do.
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Central Asian?
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I think this is the most interesting and understudied aspects in the anthropological world right now. I've always wondered as well. Too bad it's very difficult to get Ainu samples although the Ryukuans and to an extent the Nivkhs are the next best thing since those are their two closest populations before the mainland Japanese. Actually, probably, Nivkh<-->Ainu<-->Ryukyuan<-->Mainland Japanese.
I've always wondered if they have some sort of quasi Mediterranean/West Asian/East African like admixture.
Apparently I remember reading someone tried to run an Ainu STR profile and their top matches ended up being both East Asian and Mediterranean populations (Spain, Italy). But its STR so take it for what it's worth.
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