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    "The Swedish Prime Minister has backed calls for a sexual consent law which will mean more rape and sexual assault cases can be prosecuted.

    Under the proposed law, if a person has not agreed in words or clearly demonstrated they want to engage in sexual activity, then forcing or coercing them into a sexual act will be illegal.

    Current Swedish law means what is classed as “rape” covers a multitude of sexual offences but it has to be proven it occurred because of threats or violence.

    The proposed changes, which are likely to be legislated for next year, will mean sexual acts will be deemed rape whenever consent was not given regardless of whether there is any evidence of threats or violence.

    Speaking a press conference announcing the change, Prime Minister Stefan Löfven said: “It should be obvious. Sex should be voluntary. If it is not voluntary, then it is illegal.

    “If you are unsure, then refrain!”

    The new sexual consent law is partially a response to the #metoo movement which gathered momentum after allegations emerged that Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein had used his position to sexually harass, assault and rape dozens of women over the past 30 years.

    The claims led to a wave of allegations against other powerful men in other industries and spread across the world, including to Sweden.

    The proposed law is one of several initiatives designed to put “the victim’s interests first”, Mr Löfven said.

    Critics of the law have said it will not lead to more convictions, but Mr Löfven said it was also about “changing society’s attitudes and values”, The Local reported.

    In addition to the sexual consent law, the government is also planning other legislation which will improved victim support service, fight sexual exploitation and human trafficking, make buying sex abroad illegal and increase prison sentences for offenders.

    There is also a 10-year plan in place to fight men’s violence against women and a plan to introduce electronic tagging of convicted domestic abusers."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8117471.html

    We're living in a woman's world now, this is absolutely insane. Now you can't even fuck a girl from the bar because she might regret it the next day and ruin your life. Now you'll literally have to convince a girl to videotape the sex if you want to be 100% sure of not giving her the ability to destroy your life at will.

    Albobalboa's theory: This is a slick way of punishing immigrant men, and ensuring that they are less able to go bangbus apeshit on the Swedish women. Swedish women are far more likely to "regret" having sex with an immigrant due to the societal pressure, as the "Sven Swede Guy" would be seen as an innocent mistake and no one would judge her for that.

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    I always have a contract in my back pocket. I refer to it as my contract of consent.

    Relationships between men and women have gotten to the point where the old unwritten rules that everyone understood are no longer in play in favor of arbitrary rules dependent on the political climate.

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    including drinks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albobalboa View Post
    We're living in a woman's world now, this is absolutely insane. Now you can't even fuck a girl from the bar because she might regret it the next day and ruin your life. Now you'll literally have to convince a girl to videotape the sex if you want to be 100% sure of not giving her the ability to destroy your life at will.
    That's to protect mostly younger girls from getting raped when drunk. Some men are agressive and even try drug girls to sleep with them.

    People should learn that no is a no until it is a yes. Just because you agree with someone to walk you home, it doesn't mean that's an invitation for rape for example.

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    Τhe truth is somewhere in the middle.
    We see people that cry ''rape'' because someone said ''hey you look hot in the street'' or some extreme stupid situations on one hand.
    On the other hand, you see people actually raping women with the excuse ''but she said no, and no means yes'', or ''she didn't say no'' (when she was wasted to unconsious) and several others.

    People need to learn the different when someone does NOT want something, and people also need to learn what exactly rape is .
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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    That's to protect mostly younger girls from getting raped when drunk. Some men are agressive and even try drug girls to sleep with them.

    People should learn that no is a no until it is a yes. Just because you agree with someone to walk you home, it doesn't mean that's an invitation for rape for example.
    There's a major gray area.

    1. Some women like to play hard to get and be chased, if you're not the one providing the chase then some other guy will and he'll hit that.

    2. She could say yes at the time and regret it the day after, if maybe someone she knows found out about it. There's no way for someone to defend themselves against these accusations if proof is not required, this is guilty until proven innocent.

    3. This has nothing to do with forced physical rape, that's a whole other issue.

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    How prone are Swedish women to falsely accuse someone of rape? I thought they wouldn't do that since "Sweden is the most perfect society, where everyone is overfilled with ethics and values" according to Western media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albobalboa View Post
    There's a major gray area.

    1. Some women like to play hard to get and be chased, if you're not the one providing the chase then some other guy will and he'll hit that.

    2. She could say yes at the time and regret it the day after, if maybe someone she knows found out about it. There's no way for someone to defend themselves against these accusations if proof is not required, this is guilty until proven innocent.

    3. This has nothing to do with forced physical rape, that's a whole other issue.
    A girl might like to be chased, and might even have in her mind to eventually have sex with a guy but for some reason she might not feel comfortable to have sex with that guy yet. You have to respect that.

    If you pressure her to have sex and you end up sleeping with her, she might later regret her choice, especially if she was drunk.

    If she was embarassed about you, and you were someone she wouldn't present to her friends, she might lie about you to her friends about you, but she wouldn't actually report you for rape. She would just say she was drunk, that you were a mistake and that's all. People don't make up fake stories of rape like that, unless they seek revenge for something or are after to harm you.

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    Prior to having intercourse women need to sign an affirmative consent form, otherwise she has the right to accuse him of rape and win the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Prior to having intercourse women need to sign an affirmative consent form, otherwise she has the right to accuse him of rape and win the case.
    And this is partially how I was born.

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