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    Default Ancient Gravestones of my family

    I've been researching the ancestry of my family for quite some time now, and it does have a weird last name - non slavic last name
    without any meaning.

    It's Zirić (Slavicized Last name).

    I've been checking in Karlovac City Archives and I've been told that my family came in 15th century from Montenegro area.

    I've been looking further there, and I have found on Montenegrin border = Trebinje village old Gravestone from 3rd century A.D.

    It has been written about a person with name: ZIRAEVS.

    Now question is: Could Zirić be slavicized ZIRAEVS, I mean we all know that AE = I, US = (slav) IS/IĆ

    This is how grave looks:



    It says:

    D(is) M(anibus) Ziraeo Plarentis f(ilio) defuncto anno(rum) [--- et Z]anati / [Zira]ei f(ilio) defuncto / annor(um) XXX / Annaia Zanat(i) f(ilia) vir[o et f(ilio)] et Plarens Zira[ei f(ilius)] patri et fratri.

    Can't even translate it.

    Germans called it: "Grabinschrift des Ziraeus"

    Also I have found the same name in Dalmatian Legions (That included that previous area)



    So I have

    1. Similar Regional Ancestry.

    2. Similar Last Name/Name

    What else could I check?

    Or should I just leave it as "assumption"

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    ]I mean we all know that AE = I
    No, it's not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucia View Post
    No, it's not
    The pair 'ae' or the single mushed together symbol 'æ', is not pronounced as two separate vowels. It comes (almost always) from a borrowing from Latin. In the original Latin it is pronounced as /ai/ (in IPA) or to rhyme with the word 'eye'. But, for whatever reason, it is usually pronounced as '/iy/' or "ee". Encyclodpeeedia, alumneee (for many female 'alumnae'). Another variant is /ɛ/ in an-eh-sthetic for 'anaesthetic'.

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    Doesnt change the fact that you are heavily slav admixed
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    Quote Originally Posted by АКСИС View Post
    Doesnt change the fact that you are heavily slav admixed
    Not really. We are barely 30%

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    Quote Originally Posted by АКСИС View Post
    Doesnt change the fact that you are heavily slav admixed
    He has Balkanite Y-DNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decius View Post
    Not really. We are barely 30%
    Even if it was just 30% how is that little? That means over 1 of your grandparents was full Slav lol.

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