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    Quote Originally Posted by aherne View Post
    Map isn't correct. Northern Germany was by no means dominantly "Nordic". Southern Germany, Switzerland and even South Tyrol has PLENTY of "Nordids". Like in Italy, North-South difference is massively overrated...
    Of course it is. What else would it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Lining View Post
    Of course it is. What else would it be?
    My advice is never to listen to aherne, an idiot who should be banned from this forum for his constant spamming of misinformation and his emotions. He is either an idiot or an ethnik troll trying to sabotage this place, with his feces.

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    I found this https://translate.google.pl/translat...168&edit-text=

    Looking at the feature maps of Europe, the north, in particular the northwest of Germany, joins the light-pigmented, large-growth and narrow-long-headed region in northern Europe. But even beyond that, the German-speaking area is a bulge of brighter pigmentation to the south. Everywhere on the linguistic border, but more so in the west and south than in the east, shows on the German side, the lighter pigmentation. Within the German-speaking area, the bright pigmentation decreases to the south.

    In a medium stripe, from Franconia to Saxony to Silesia (before 1945), body height is somewhat lower, and the proportions of head, face and body are somewhat broader than in the north. In the south, in the foothills of the Alps, Switzerland and Austria, the face and body proportions are narrower again, and the body height is again greater. Here too, even southern European physiognomic features, such as large noses, eyes far ahead, full lips or strong eyebrows, are more common.

    In Eastern Germany, Eastern European physiognomic features such as prominent cheekbones, oblique eyelids and concave nose profile increase. On the whole, Germans are broader than their western neighbors, England and France, who are among the most leptosomed and narrow-faced Europeans with the Spaniards, and narrower than their eastern neighbors, the Poles, Czechs, Hungarians and other Eastern Europeans. They are more light-eyed and fair-haired than their western and southern neighbors - the southern Germans correspond in their pigmentation about Normandy and even the German Swiss are even blonder than the Walloons - and at the same time not light-eyed, but yet fair-haired than their eastern neighbors. In some regions of western Germany, in Southern Lower Saxony, South Westphalia, Northern Hesse, Westerwald and Eifel, which are hardly less brightly pigmented, tall and long-headed than the North, the faces are rather medium to wide. Here, according to the overall physiognomic impression, cromagnid types with an angular face and deep-set eyes are common, a combination of features that is referred to as fälisch in Germany.

    Austria appears on the feature cards as a bulge of relatively bright pigmentation, long-headed and narrow-faced to the east. The body height is also unusually large compared to southern Germany, the body shape predominantly leptosome. Here, the northern influence overlaps with that of the high-growth area in western Southeastern Europe. The Yugoslavs surpass the Austrians even at body height. In the case of serological features too, Austria's character shows itself to be a head of relatively western features to the east. The blood type B typical for Eastern Europe is rarer among the Austrians than among the Czechs, Hungarians and Slovenes. In South Tyrol, the German-Italian language border proves to be a pronounced feature limit for numerous anthropological and genetic traits.


    For example, the different typological composition of the West German and East German populations (before 1945) is evident from their different feature correlations. In West German expellees from Westphalia, the highest morphological feature correlation between the two characteristic features of Eastern Europe is stressed cheekbones and oblique crevices (r = 0.44), whereas in the case of native Westphalia the correlation between these features is only 0.07 and is not significantly different from zero. Instead, there is a plethora of correlations between the physiognomic features of native Westphalia, which are in part directly opposite to the correlations among the East Germans and which correspond to the image of the Fälischer type. The different correlations show that in addition to common population elements in the East Germans, the East European and, in the case of Westphalia, the Fälische type are involved in the composition of the population.

    All in all, the northern (Nordic) type predominates in northern Germany with regionally different proportions of the likewise pale-pigmented Fälischer type. In Central and Southern Germany, the darker pigmented, round-headed, lower-faced alpine type and darker pigmented, tall-short, short-headed dinarid type, characterized by a characteristic physiognomy with a convex nose, are added. The latter is common in the Alpine region, often with bright eyes. In the East, the brightly pigmented Eastern European type is added, which combines with only moderate short-headedness mainly physiognomic features, such as the already mentioned emphasized cheekbones and oblique eyelids.
    According to the data of the Westphalian expellees, the Eastern European type was only in the extreme east of the German-speaking area, in the districts of Lauenburg and Bütow in Pomerania, in eastern Upper Silesia, in the Lithuanian northeast of East Prussia and in the East Prussian Samland (old Prussia!). The anthropologist Friedrich Keiter made type diagnoses in 1936 on the basis of photographs of anthropologically examined local populations from different parts of Germany.

    The table Keiters describes only the appearance types and must not be interpreted genetically in each case. Thus, the percentages for Mediterranean types in Northern Germany or for Eastern European in West Germany can also be based on random combinations of features without genetic relations to Southern or Eastern Europe. Such feature combinations can always occur in the great physiognomic diversity that exists even in typologically fairly homogeneous populations. A good half of the individuals can not be assigned to any of the types, which is not surprising - the types are only clusters of characteristics within a genealogically networked population with a large individual variability of the characteristics. This also explains why even in northern Germany the individuals corresponding to the Nordic type represent less than half of the population. It is noteworthy, after all, that even in southern Germany, the Nordic type is even more common than the other European types.
    The relatively light pigmentation in the German-speaking area and the decreasing expression of northern features from north to south can be explained well with the Teutons and their expansion during the Migration Period. The darker pigmentation and other abnormal findings in the south of the German-speaking area indicate that the older Celtic-Roman, Rhaetian and Illyrian populations were assimilated by the Teutons. In the east of the German-speaking area, there are also remnants of the Slavic population from the time before the German Ostsiedlung, which are expressed in local clusters of features of the Eastern European type or blood type B. Recent studies show for the Lusatian Sorbs a haplotype distribution of Y-DNA, as it otherwise occurs only in Poland. The cromagnide, fälische type can be detected in northern Hesse even in the Neolithic.

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    Faelid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Übermensch View Post
    Faelid.
    The Faelid type is concentrated in Westphalia/Hesse/Rheinlands. All of these areas had significant Frankish settlement.

    The Cro-Magnon types of the Saxon areas of Northern Germany and along the Elbe tend to be more mixed, while the Faelid along the Rhein is more or less unaltered.

    Maybe Cro-Magnon influence was greater among the Franks than the Saxons or other West Germanic tribes.

    Rufosity in Germany is most common in Germany in areas of greatest Frankish Settlment rather than areas of greatest Saxon settlement and this may reflect the distribution of Cro-magnon types.

    Tacitus described Germania as very homogeneous, but I wonder what the phenotypical variation there was between the tribal alliences that would later be established.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Übermensch View Post
    Faelid.
    For sure not, LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbian Lady View Post
    Is it Alpinid, Nordid, Baltid, Pontid, North Pontid, Atlanto Mediterranid, North Atlantid, Dinarid etc.?
    It is a combination of Borreby - West Alpinid.

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