Zoran Zaev: We are ready to Abandon Alexander the Great

[catgeorge]

Wrong headline. Zaev never said that. He just said that Vardar Macedonians shouldn't be the sole heirs of Alexander the Great. He said that both both Greeks and Vardar-Macedonians should be allowed to claim him instead of only Vardar-Macedonians.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...great-51967357

Alexander did not speak Vardarian they have no right to claim him whatsoever.

His name is neither Alksandar Makedonski nor is his language Monkeydonkey

The integrity on these people is appalling.

[Crn Volk]

Alexander did not speak Vardarian they have no right to claim him whatsoever.

His name is neither Alksandar Makedonski nor is his language Monkeydonkey

The integrity on these people is appalling.

It’s all in the genes bro. Besides you have admitted your family spoke Vlach and Turkish, yet you claim to be Greek and therefore descendent of ancient Greeks. You are at best a Byzantine/East Roman...

[Vojnik]

Alexander was Greek only in the ancient sense of the word, Which denoted a person who belonged to the dominant culture at that time. Hellenistic culture of ancient times was the equivalent of Western culture of today.

Western culture is dominated by the English language, yet you have non anglo saxons who speak it.

The ancient Macedonians had there own distinct kingdom, and were considered barbarians by the kingdoms south of them.

Demosthenes:
"... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave"

[Mingle]

Alexander was Greek only in the ancient sense of the word, Which denoted a person who belonged to the dominant culture at that time. Hellenistic culture of ancient times was the equivalent of Western culture of today.

Western culture is dominated by the English language, yet you have non anglo saxons who speak it.

The ancient Macedonians had there own distinct kingdom, and were considered barbarians by the kingdoms south of them.

Demosthenes:
"... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave"

If Macedonians weren't Greek, then why were they allowed to compete in the Greek-only Olympic Games?

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[Vojnik]

If Macedonians weren't Greek, then why were they allowed to compete in the Greek-only Olympic Games?

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One thing about the ancient olympics is that it was a political tool. Also, non Greeks such as Nero competed in the games.

[Laberia]

Alexander was Greek only in the ancient sense of the word, Which denoted a person who belonged to the dominant culture at that time. Hellenistic culture of ancient times was the equivalent of Western culture of today.

Western culture is dominated by the English language, yet you have non anglo saxons who speak it.

The ancient Macedonians had there own distinct kingdom, and were considered barbarians by the kingdoms south of them.

Demosthenes:
"... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave"

I fully agree with you, but what have to do you with the story of Alexander The Great?

[Laberia]

If Macedonians weren't Greek, then why were they allowed to compete in the Greek-only Olympic Games?

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Illyrians also partecipated in the Olympic Games.

[Vojnik]

I fully agree with you, but what have to do you with the story of Alexander The Great?

The name I inherited from my grand parents and great grand parents etc etc. Also the place i originate from in Macedonia: Bitola and Lerin/Florina. I know none other then Macedonia. Lets not forget, my DNA which shows my ancestors come from that part of the world.

[Laberia]

The name I inherited from my grand parents and great grand parents etc etc. Also the place i originate from in Macedonia: Bitola and Lerin/Florina. I know none other then Macedonia. Lets not forget, my DNA which shows my ancestors come from that part of the world.

But the name Alexander is used by many people during the history. You are a slavic nation. Your DNA is irrelevant because we are talking about an ethnic group, not about the haplogroup of an individual. I don't have nothing against you, but a slav can not claim to be descendant of Alexander The Great.
There are many theories about ancient Macedonians. Some consider them as Greeks, some as Illyrians(we have our legends and medieval chronicles where he is considered an Albanian), but we have to take in consideration also the option that ancient Macedonians disappeared from history like ancient greeks and many other nations of antiquity. But in all the possible scenarios, Ancient Macedonians and Alexander The Great were not Slavs. Personally, i support every name solution of your country accepted by all parts, including Albanians and after this, your country can follow the integration in EU, NATO and this means that our region can have one less problem.

[Voskos]

@bosniensis

What does DNA have to do with anything? Greek/Macedonian/Thracian etc were ethnolinguistic groups and have nothing to do with Slavs.Quite the contrary, Slavs wiped out many of these groups and are the antithesis/cultural opponents of Ancient Balkanic cultures.