Ancient Turkic monument complex discovered in Mongolia

[Böri]

A SQUARE MONUMENT COMPLEX COMPRISING OF 14 PILLARS INSCRIBED WITH TURKIC RUNIC INSCRIPTIONS HAS BEEN DISCOVERED ON THE STEPPE AT THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITE OF DONGOIN SHIREE IN EASTERN MONGOLIA.

The discovery was made during a joint excavation by Osaka University and the Institute of History and Archaeology of the Mongolian Academy of Sciences on a three-year research project.



It was previously believed that inscriptions were only on the steppes in the western region of Ulan Bator, however the discovery has now shed light on relationships and the tribal balances of power in eastern Mongolia in the Middle Ages.

The monument itself is of a square configuration comprising of 14 stone pillars, surrounding a sarcophagus within the centre of a raised mound.



Each inscription contains the tamga of the ancient Turkic tribes. (A tamga is an abstract seal or stamp used by Eurasian nomadic peoples).

Using radiocarbon dating of pieces of calcined coal, sheepskin, and horse bone excavated from the sarcophagus, it was estimated that the burial complex was built in the 8th century, during the late Second Ancient Turkic Qaghanate.

Professor Takashi OSAWA has been deciphering the runic text and discovered that the burial was for a Yabgu, a title of office in the early Turkic states, roughly equivalent to viceroy.

It was also found that the Yabgu became a Tölis-Shad (Royalty of the East), a commander in chief and highest administrative officer, in eastern Mongolia during the reign of Tengri Qaghan (734-741 AD).

These findings show that the site of Dongoin shiree steppe was a tribal centre of the eastern Turkic Qaghanate and reveals the power relationships of rulers in the east as well as the political and military relationships with Mongolian tribes of the region.

https://www.heritagedaily.com/2017/1...ongolia/117876

[Pennywise]

The discovery is not new, it was found in 2013 but the full content of the texts hasn't been published yet. I wonder why.

[Böri]

Atatürk was right when he said: We Turks are they who rose from East and they who rose from the West!

Huge discovery anyway.
Another proof Turks were in eastern Mongolia before fellow Mongols who came from Manchuria.

During second Turkic Kaghanate... Khazaria was existing in what's today eastern Europe.

The eastern Turks were erecting such great sarcophagus in Eastern Mongolia for Yabgu who passed away... when the western Turks (Khazars) were building the city of Kiev for first time in history as trading outpost..

BTW
Without forgetting.
Credit to Japanese scientists.

Japanese archeologists, just like Hungarian ones are mostly Turcophiles and contributed greatly to shed light on the history of Turks.

[Böri]

The discovery is not new, it was found in 2013 but the full content of the texts hasn't been published yet. I wonder why.

Maybe Mongolian bureaucracy and authorities preferred to wait a little bit.

If they find genetic sample of the Yabgu burried there it would be good if they test it for y-dna and autosomal.

[Pennywise]

Maybe Mongolian bureaucracy and authorities preferred to wait a little bit.

If they find genetic sample of the Yabgu burried there it would be good if they test it for y-dna and autosomal.

The study is led by Osaka University, it is strange they have waited this long. You can more or less guess the results of an autosomal DNA test but a Y-DNA search would be interesting.

[Böri]

Before the investigation of the ruins began in May 2015, researchers involved thought that inscriptions and ruins of Turkic royalties were only on the steppes in the western part of Ulan Bator, the capital of Mongolia. However, this excavation team, led by Professor Takashi OSAWA at Osaka University, discovered 12 new inscriptions at the site, obtaining clues that clarified power relationships in eastern Mongolia in the Middle Ages from the inscriptions and the stone configuration at the monument.


These findings show that the Dongoin shiree steppe, where the unique monument ruins remain, was the center of the eastern area of the ancient Turkic Qaghanate, whose location was not known from materials written in Chinese and Turkic texts. This monument reveals power relationships of rulers in the east area of the Turkic Qaghanate and their territories, as well as their political and military relationships with Mongolian tribes such as the Khitan, Tatabi and Tatar. In addition, the arrangement of these stone pillars on the plateau also provides important information for discussing the religious ideas and world outlook of the ancient nomads.

https://phys.org/news/2017-12-discov...llars.html#jCp

It seems some written text in old Turkic runic inscriptions uncovered. Professor Osawa should publish the texts since it obviously shows the vassalage status of Mongolian tribes to their Turkic masters.


So, before Gengis Khan and Batu Khan rose to power, the vassalage worked the other way around. Mongols were our vassals obviously

[Böri]

These findings show that the site of Dongoin shiree steppe was a tribal centre of the eastern Turkic Qaghanate and reveals the power relationships of rulers in the east as well as the political and military relationships with Mongolian tribes of the region.

That means in that region of Mongolia which is close to Manchuria, Turkic aristocracy ruled over the East Asian people. Unlike some believe, Turks of old did rule East Asian people.
This monument is from 2nd Turkish Reich which was less powerful than 1st.
1st khaganate reached the sea of Japan in the region of north to Korean peninsula (and Black Sea, Crimea in the west). So Türks did rule long time the Mongols.

[Böri]

Epigraphs of ancient Turkic people discovered in Mongolia

Two massive slabs of stone inscribed in ancient Turkic script have been found on the steppes of eastern Mongolia, the first such discovery in over a century, a Japanese researcher said July 16.

The epigraphs date from the mid-eighth century, said Takashi Osawa, a professor of ancient Turkic history at Osaka University's graduate school.

He said the finds may offer invaluable clues to the political systems and institutions of the Gokturk people, who faced the Sui and Tang dynasties in China in times of peace and war as they reigned over the steppes of Central Asia.

Osawa said he and researchers from the Institute of Archaeology of the Mongolian Academy of Sciences discovered remnants of two giant epigraphs in May at an archaeological site called Dongoin shiree. It is near Mount Delgerkhaan, 400 kilometers southeast of Ulan Bator, the Mongolian capital.




The epigraphs measure 4 meters and 3 meters, respectively.



Combined, they are inscribed with 2,832 symbols, in 20 lines of ancient Turkic script.

Osawa, who deciphered the writing, said it describes the lamentation of people who have to leave their beloved families and homeland behind when they die.

"Oh, my home!" reads one inscription. Another reads: "Oh, my land!"

Signs engraved in the epigraphs indicate the artifacts likely represent epitaphs dedicated to members of the Ashina tribe, the reigning family of the Second Turkic Empire (682-744).

The Gokturks are the oldest nomadic people in Central Asia that left records of their own language in their own writing system.

The discovery is significant as it is the first of its kind since the three most renowned ancient Turkic inscriptions (Bilge Kaghan, Kol Tigin and Tonyukuk) were discovered in central Mongolia about 120 years ago, experts said.

"Other parts that remain buried in the ground may offer a record of the lives of the individuals commemorated," Osawa said.

"Research on ancient Turkic script has centered on the re-reading of known inscriptions after a Danish linguist deciphered the writing in the late 19th century," said Takao Moriyasu, a professor of Central Asian history at Kinki University. "The latest finds could help unravel new facts."

The history of the Gokturk state started when Yili Kaghan founded the First Turkic Empire in 552.

Political maneuvering by the Sui Dynasty of China split the Gokturk nation into an eastern and a western part, with the East Turkic Empire succumbing to Tang China's rule in 630. The Gokturks regained independence from Tang China to found the Second Turkic Empire in 682, only to be brought down by the Uighurs in 744.


http://www.kaogu.cn/en/News/New_disc...026/43225.html

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