Who are the physically weakest and least athletic asians? Support your answers with examples

[Thambi]

I'm pretty sure Great Khali alone is bigger than any east asian.

indians do decent in the asian games. Atleast better than south east asians overall. India tied with iran in 2014 asian games at seoul with 57 medals. Thailand got 47 medals with 518 athletes and india got 57 with 515 athletes. Indonesia had 20 medals, philippines had 15. China, korea, japan, and kazakhstan are above india at that event. Iran tied and rest of the countries had lower medal count.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Asian_Games

Besides, physical strength and the medal count are not proportional or something. Many of the east asians get medals through ping pong, taekwondo, judo since they are traditional asian sports and not exactly strength based. If they added cricket, kabbadi and such indians will get more medals. India, pakistan, and other south asian countries focus on cricket, and they do amazing at that. India is ranked 6th in World hockey league, well above east asian countries.
http://www.fih.ch/rankings/outdoor/

In badminton singles an indian guy and girl are both ranked at 3rd place in the respective male and femal categories.
http://bwfbadminton.com/rankings/2/b...s=25&page_no=1

With proper training, Indians can give their best with sporting events.

I agree, indians are predisposed to diabetes and heart disease and such but its mostly in western countries. Within india, only the rich class has this problem. The middle to poor class are majority farmers or labor based and they get enough physical pressure/exercise that diabetes is the last thing they will encounter. Its just lifestyle changes recently. It can fixed. Besides black people have even higher rates of cardiovascular problems, very high rates of heart attacks. Are they unathletic now? You need to chill out with these anti indian posts. I've seen you go against indians on other threads.

[Hindukush]

Mean lean muscle mass (kg)


black males = 65.6kg

White males = 62 kg

Hispanic males = 59.9 kg

Asian males = 59.6 kg

Indian males = 53.3 kg

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...3180/table/T1/



At any given body fat mass value, South Asians had significantly less lean mass than each of the three other groups after adjustment for age, height, humerus breadth, smoking status, physical activity, and diet. Aboriginal, Chinese, and European men had 3.42 kg [95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.55–5.29], 3.01 kg (95% CI = 1.33–4.70), and 3.57 kg (95% CI = 1.82–5.33) more lean mass than South Asian men at a given total fat mass, respectively"

Ethnic Variation in Fat and Lean Body Mass and the Association with Insulin Resistance

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/articl...2/4696/2596390



Asian Indians tend to have more abdominal adipose tissue, less lean body mass (LBM) and higher magnitude of insulin resistance (IR) despite falling in the normal range of body mass index (BMI) [1]. The high value of waist hip ratio in Asian Indians may be due to less lean mass of the hips and greater fat at the levels of waist [2]. Another study showed that Asian Indian men have low muscle mass and 30% more total body fat (BF) than other ethnic groups [3]. Low lean mass is also evident in Asian Indian neonates as compared to white Caucasian neonates [4].
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0040977



The lung capacity of Indians is 30 per cent lower than North Americans or Europeans or Chinese, making them highly vulnerable to diabetes, heart attacks or strokes, says a top scientist.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-n...ese-study.html



"Asian Indians had more fat, both total and in the abdominal region, with less lean mass, skeletal muscle and bone mineral than all other ethnic groups"

Body size, body composition and fat distribution: comparative analysis of European, Maori, Pacific Island and Asian Indian adults.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19203416





"Asian Indians have different body phenotype from Europeans (36). The major differences are in high
body fat, high truncal, subcutaneous and intra-abdominal fat, and low muscle mass."

Ethnicity and type 2 diabetes in Asian Indian migrants in Auckland, New Zealand
http://docplayer.net/27128397-Ethnic...w-zealand.html

[Hindukush]

I'm pretty sure Great Khali alone is bigger than any east asian.

indians do decent in the asian games. Atleast better than south east asians overall. India tied with iran in 2014 asian games at seoul with 57 medals. Thailand got 47 medals with 518 athletes and india got 57 with 515 athletes. Indonesia had 20 medals, philippines had 15. China, korea, japan, and kazakhstan are above india at that event. Iran tied and rest of the countries had lower medal count.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Asian_Games

Besides, physical strength and the medal count are not proportional or something. Many of the east asians get medals through ping pong, taekwondo, judo since they are traditional asian sports and not exactly strength based. If they added cricket, kabbadi and such indians will get more medals. India, pakistan, and other south asian countries focus on cricket, and they do amazing at that. India is ranked 6th in World hockey league, well above east asian countries.
http://www.fih.ch/rankings/outdoor/

In badminton singles an indian guy and girl are both ranked at 3rd place in the respective male and femal categories.
http://bwfbadminton.com/rankings/2/b...s=25&page_no=1

With proper training, Indians can give their best with sporting events.

I agree, indians are predisposed to diabetes and heart disease and such but its mostly in western countries. Within india, only the rich class has this problem. The middle to poor class are majority farmers or labor based and they get enough physical pressure/exercise that diabetes is the last thing they will encounter. Its just lifestyle changes recently. It can fixed. Besides black people have even higher rates of cardiovascular problems, very high rates of heart attacks. Are they unathletic now? You need to chill out with these anti indian posts. I've seen you go against indians on other threads.

Keep coping and being in denial. refute the peer reviewed studies I posted instead of getting emotional

In particular, there is accumulating evidence that South Asians may have a 'low fitness' phenotype which contributes to their elevated cardio-metabolic risk, and thus may particularly benefit from undertaking higher levels of physical activity [14]"

Btw the great khali is a wrestler not a real fighter. He may be bigger than other asians, doesn't mean he can fight. If you gonna compare compare number of boxing champions, power lifters, athletes. China has had more medals in olympic athletics than india.
In regards to blacks you can't compare blacks to indians. Blacks have high mean lean muscle mass and low body fat phenotype. Diabetes in blacks is entirely related to lifestyle. Indians even at lower BMI still are drastically more prone to diabetes because of their low lean muscle mass and high body fat phenotype even when adjusting for life style and physical activity

And lets not pretend that indians are victims here. Its no secret that many indians think they are physically and racially superior to east and south east asians. I'm just here to show north indians that this is not the case, infact north indians are the weakest people in the world and can't compete with other asians in strenght and fight sports

[Thambi]

Mean lean muscle mass (kg)


black males = 65.6kg

White males = 62 kg

Hispanic males = 59.9 kg

Asian males = 59.6 kg

Indian males = 53.3 kg

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...3180/table/T1/



At any given body fat mass value, South Asians had significantly less lean mass than each of the three other groups after adjustment for age, height, humerus breadth, smoking status, physical activity, and diet. Aboriginal, Chinese, and European men had 3.42 kg [95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.55–5.29], 3.01 kg (95% CI = 1.33–4.70), and 3.57 kg (95% CI = 1.82–5.33) more lean mass than South Asian men at a given total fat mass, respectively"

Ethnic Variation in Fat and Lean Body Mass and the Association with Insulin Resistance

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/articl...596390



Asian Indians tend to have more abdominal adipose tissue, less lean body mass (LBM) and higher magnitude of insulin resistance (IR) despite falling in the normal range of body mass index (BMI) [1]. The high value of waist hip ratio in Asian Indians may be due to less lean mass of the hips and greater fat at the levels of waist [2]. Another study showed that Asian Indian men have low muscle mass and 30% more total body fat (BF) than other ethnic groups [3]. Low lean mass is also evident in Asian Indian neonates as compared to white Caucasian neonates [4].

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0040977



The lung capacity of Indians is 30 per cent lower than North Americans or Europeans or Chinese, making them highly vulnerable to diabetes, heart attacks or strokes, says a top scientist.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-n...ese-study.html



"Asian Indians had more fat, both total and in the abdominal region, with less lean mass, skeletal muscle and bone mineral than all other ethnic groups"

Body size, body composition and fat distribution: comparative analysis of European, Maori, Pacific Island and Asian Indian adults.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19203416





"Asian Indians have different body phenotype from Europeans (36). The major differences are in high
body fat, high truncal, subcutaneous and intra-abdominal fat, and low muscle mass."

Ethnicity and type 2 diabetes in Asian Indian migrants in Auckland, New Zealand (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/public....nd_New_Zealand [accessed Dec 18 2017].

The muscle mass is lower in that chart cause indians also weigh 6kg less than all other groups in that chart. They weigh 76kg, rest of them weigh in 82-83% range. Also the number of samples for indians are significantly lower than others. They had 37 samples for indian males and 78 for asian males. The other groups are in the 200s. In colleges and work settings, many indians are studious and they dont work out as much. If they compared say athletes, i dont think the BF percentages will be that different. The article just says college students, not adjusted for physical activity or such. Besides, indians men had only 2% more BF than the east asian ones. 22% for asians, and 24% for indians. Bone mineral density was roughly the same as well at 2.5% and 2.6%. In the women section, the indian ladies had about the same BF as hispanic ones. It's honestly not that different to formulate such conclusions. Also physically great khali can't fight, but with training, he can do his best. At his height and weight, 2% extra BF compared to a mongol isn't going to make him lose. Just saying lol.. Also in wrestling, India does pretty good. Sakshi malik in rio olympics beat a kazakh or krygyzstan player for a bronze. I mean i know its few examples, but the sporting scene is getting better. Thats what im trying to say.
Also you just proved my point, a lot of health problems are due to lifestyle issues, not innate. Indians have the same life expectancy as philippines, cambodia, and other south east asian countries. I mean aren't most indians technically half caucasian, or even predominantly in the northwest? So shouldn't indians have genetically similar body types to central asians? Also as far as i know north indians are built slightly better than south indians. Punjabi jatts are known for their physical strength and in canada, I know that east asians do not mess with south asians due to the punjabis sheer size.
An asian canadian says that herself in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuiWxIm3yiI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ife_expectancy

[Hindukush]

The muscle mass is lower in that chart cause indians also weigh 6kg less than all other groups in that chart. They weigh 76kg, rest of them weigh in 82-83% range. Also the number of samples for indians are significantly lower than others. They had 37 samples for indian males and 78 for asian males. The other groups are in the 200s. In colleges and work settings, many indians are studious and they dont work out as much. If they compared say athletes, i dont think the BF percentages will be that different. The article just says college students, not adjusted for physical activity or such. Besides, indians men had only 2% more BF than the east asian ones. 22% for asians, and 24% for indians. Bone mineral density was roughly the same as well at 2.5% and 2.6%. In the women section, the indian ladies had about the same BF as hispanic ones. It's honestly not that different to formulate such conclusions. Also physically great khali can't fight, but with training, he can do his best. At his height and weight, 2% extra BF compared to a mongol isn't going to make him lose. Just saying lol.. Also in wrestling, India does pretty good. Sakshi malik in rio olympics beat a kazakh or krygyzstan player for a bronze. I mean i know its few examples, but the sporting scene is getting better. Thats what im trying to say.
Also you just proved my point, a lot of health problems are due to lifestyle issues, not innate. Indians have the same life expectancy as philippines, cambodia, and other south east asian countries. I mean aren't most indians technically half caucasian, or even predominantly in the northwest? So shouldn't indians have genetically similar body types to central asians? Also as far as i know north indians are built slightly better than south indians. Punjabi jatts are known for their physical strength and in canada, I know that east asians do not mess with south asians due to the punjabis sheer size.
An asian canadian says that herself in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuiWxIm3yiI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ife_expectancy

Yeah sure. Never heard this from anyone apart from Jatts themselves. Show me a Jatt that can fight on an elite level in MMA, boxing or kickboxing.
Thailand has had more boxing champions then the whole south asia combined. thats 68 million vs 1.7 billion. Moreover since Jatts are so powerful and strong in Canada, how many gold medals in power lifting, wrestling, judo and boxing have jatts ever won for Canada in the Olympics?

There is alot of self hype concerning Jatts but not much facts

This is true physical superiority. No resources, no infrastructure, no excuses, yet they product this purely on genetics

"It is estimated that a boy born to Samoan parents is 56 times more likely to get into the NFL than any other kid in America"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A69Z8fCpuAI


Jatts can get big but because they have less lean muscle mass and fast twitch fibers, they are pretty much useless for any sport that requires athleticsm

take Sim bhullar for instance. Slow, lumbering and physically weak, lack of coordination unlike shaq, yao ming and other big guys of the past. He was relegated to the lower league because he was so awful




And concerning that study the indian height was the same as hispanic and asians at around 172cm. It just means that indians are lighter at the same heights and have less lean muscle mass
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...3180/table/T1/

and no it is not environmental but genetics. Environment does play a role but a mentioned in the studies I posted, after adjusting for exercise and lifestyle the results still concluded the same thing

Asian Indians however, have the highest odds being physically inactive ─a well known risk factor for diabetes.13 But the diabetes risk is 300% higher even after adjusting for physical inactivity.2

http://www.cadiresearch.org/topic/as...-indians-in-us

[Porn Master]

south east asia, east asia and south asia. They have also 1.5 cm dicks

[MonkeyDLuffy]

Yeah sure. Never heard this from anyone apart from Jatts themselves. Show me a Jatt that can fight on an elite level in MMA, boxing or kickboxing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjan_Bhullar

Yea Indians in overall won't be as athletic in comparison to others, but you forget that there are Billion of South Asians, with different genetics and built. I'm myself 6'5" with athletic built. Can easily outrun you if we are talking about fast twitch muscle fibers and Endurance.

The Large chunk of Athletes hail from NW South asia, Especially Haryana and Punjab. The most popular sports are Wrestling and Kabaddi, both are strength based games.

[Senpai]

Probably India, though it's all on a system of averages.. Just look at Jinder Mahal. That mans is the freakiest looking human I've ever seen.

[Hindukush]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjan_Bhullar

Yea Indians in overall won't be as athletic in comparison to others, but you forget that there are Billion of South Asians, with different genetics and built. I'm myself 6'5" with athletic built. Can easily outrun you if we are talking about fast twitch muscle fibers and Endurance.

The Large chunk of Athletes hail from NW South asia, Especially Haryana and Punjab. The most popular sports are Wrestling and Kabaddi, both are strength based games.

Sorry but arjan bhullar is not an elite fighter. One look at his video could tell any fight fan that. He is mediocre at best. If thats the best Jatts can produce I got bad news for you buddy

[Senpai]

Sorry but arjan bhullar is not an elite fighter. One look at his video could tell any fight fan that. He is mediocre at best. If thats the best Jatts can produce I got bad news for you buddy

Bhullar will be a very successful contender in the coming years. Outstanding wrestler, and no slouch with the hands and clinch.