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What they mean, is they haven't the power to decide or provide nobility titles. As by definition, only a king can. And that officially we are in republic, so nobility has no official existence anymore.
They said that to determine who can enter the association, they use the old rule of nobility transmission and imagiine that without political change who would be noble today.
I don't get your point here.
PS: I send a message to Valmont who have knowledge on the subject.
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Ok, we will not get to the point, the word has different meanings.
What I meant is a higher nobility which has a rank-title.
These are for example Grands in Spain. But they are not whole nobility.
With time in some countries there was a tendency, to declassation of the rest.
Today, in Spain, probably only the forst class is admited as nobilty,
but it is of cousrse not agreeable with the truth, espcially in Castillia,
where 8% of population was nobles, and only a tiny % of it grands.
Similar factual (not real) thing happened in those countries where nobility
was abolished - becasue only the richest ones and being into highest circle
were able to sustain their status, familiarity and usuins, regardless state's
policy towards them. Rest of nobles was only foreced to rely on themsleves,
not making any unions, contacts or clubs, where they would belong. But it
doesn;t mean, that they are not nobles - they are just not in the charmed
circle. As in France there was a severe persecutions, many of them hide
themselves - so, the real number of nobility is probably higher. Of course,
the propotion has to be counted not from present population but from the
old one, which is some 60% of the modern.
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Yes, but it is private institution, not assemblimg all possible nobles.
The point is, that some titled nobles, who in reality do notI don't get your point here.
differenciate today from rest of nobility, live in enchanted
circle. If someone would consider them to be the only or
true nobility, then he would be in great mistake.
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Probably,
I don't find a real fix definition of nobility. It might be possible the rules aren't the same everywhere
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There were of course differences, but one rule was at least everywhere:
all paternal descendants of knighthood and ennoblement later persons (if
hereditary). Titles is a different matter, which could be inherited only in
prime one line (as british lords) or not - like in Russia or Germany, where
all descendats of entitled noble bear the title of count or baron. Obviously
not all nobility was entitled. Usually it is called the "opera's titles" as such
counts or dukes never had any earldom or dukedom, but bear title. Only
the descendats of some dynasties or latifundists are different matter, as
they used to have a real power, but its are just a few families, which can
be count on the fingers of one hand, mainly just Rurikids and Gediminids.
In addition, in Poland, all nobles are equal, no matter what. You can have
no land, or just one alodial acre, and be equal to the greatest landlords,
which often were able to gain foreign rank-titles, but on the ground of
polish law, mean absolutly nothing. But even in those countries, where
they make a differentiation exist "titled nobility" and "not-titled nobility".
Btw, the term "noble title" is often confusing, as he has two totaly
different meanings: one is the nobility itself, and the second one is
the rank-additional-title to nobleness, as baron, count, duke aso.
So, sometimes, user of the word can have totaly different thing in mind.
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Btw, the most peasant countries are germanic ones, where only a few are nobles.
The worst situtaion is probably in Germany, where once
famous and large in number knighthood is totaly evaporated.
They probably exist, but noone knows how many of them.
Officially, they recognize only 0.01% of sociaty as nobles, among which only couple of
percentages are Uradel (before 1450). rest are just Briefadels, mostly even just bought.
similarly is in scandinavia where only couple of thousand
of people are officialy regognized by their ridderhouses.
Finland has something 5000 if I remember correctly, Sweden
and Norway not too much than it. So obviously, there ahs to
be something wrong, as impossible is, that all medieval knights
vanished. Probably they at one time degradated all not titled
nobles, being happy about the richest ones.
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The Dutch so called royal family are just a bunch of satanic aristocratic SCUM
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In Serbia I'd say 5% is genetically royal like everywhere in Serbia so in all of the population.
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Don't know about them, families that always leached of poor people and middle-class history wise, bunch of wankers.
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