Mongolian and Indo-European language similarities

[demiirel]

Why don't you go to Japan to help?

You have more in common with them than with us, asian... and as the european wannabe you are you can begin with one of our western traits: humanitarianism.

GO GO GO!!

and why do you keep delaying your trip to aid Libya?

[Don]

and why do you keep delaying your trip to aid Libya?

That is all you can say?

A clonic answer relating Spain to another continent as África?

What a show of creativity, the monkey imitates and needs the master, a reference to his low and needy existence.



I'm sure you have informed yourself about this surgical operation. You pathetic soul.

[demiirel]

That is all you can say?

A clonic answer relating Spain to another continent as África?

What a show of creativity, the monkey imitates and needs the master, a reference to his low and needy existence.
I'm sure you have informed yourself about this surgical operation. You pathetic soul.

Now is not really the time to be making fun of Japan Donito.

[demiirel]

Long time no visit thread.

Might as well add some more "words with identical meanings". I've been looking at the Neuenglisch-Indogermanisch dictionary as well as this weird article: http://www.sino-platonic.org/complet...rds_altaic.pdf

The following are some of the words which survived my ultra-critical eye:

1. Afar, afar off: PIE *kuel, Mongolian kol
2. Alongside: PIE *kmta, *kom, Mongolian kamta
3. Apple: PIE *abel, *abol, *ablu, Mongolian alim, alma
4. Ashes: PIE *kenis, *konis, Mongolian hunes, uns
5. Ask for: PIE *guhedh-, Mongolian guyi-, guyu-, (guhi-)
6. Axe: PIE *sekiuo, *sekura, Mongolian suke
7. Backside: PIE *ers, *orsos, Mongolian ar, esreg
8. Bald: PIE *gal-, *galuos, Mongolian kalzan
9. Barley: PIE *albhi, Mongolian arbai
10. Bird: PIE *kaua, Mongolian sawa, shuwuu
11. Black: PIE *krsno, Sanskrit kala, Mongolian kara
12. Brown: PIE *bheros, *bhrono, Mongolian boro
13. Calm: PIE *taus-, Mongolian taw, tawtai, taiwan
14. Cuckoo: PIE *kuku, Mongolian kuku
15. Shadow, shade: Old English sceadu, Greek skotos (darkness), Mongolian segudur, seuder
16. Tail: Old English taegel, Old High German zagal, Mongolian segul, seul
17. Hook: Old English hoc, Mongolian goko
18. Knife, to cut: Swedish kuta (to cut, knife), Icelandic kuti (knife), Middle English cutten, kitten, Mongolian kidu- (to cut), kituga (knife), qutuga (knife)
19. Many: Old English fela, feala, Mongolian bulan, olan
20. To know: Old English witan, Mongolian mede-, mude-
21. Broad: Old English wid, Mongolian budun
22. Wood, forest: Old English wudu (wood, forest), Mongolian modu (wood, forest)
23. Dust: PIE *dheus, Old English dust, Mongolian doz, tausun, tos
24. Daddy: PIE *appa, *atta, Mongolian aba, ata
25. Dear: PIE *karo, Mongolian kairan
26. Deer: PIE *elen, Mongolian ili
27. Direction: PIE *deikos, *dika, Mongolian djuk (duk)
28. Double: PIE *dueiplo, Mongolian dapkar, dawkar
29. Dry: PIE *ksero, Mongolian kurai
30. Femaleness: PIE *maghoti, Mongolian emegtei (female)
31. Fence: PIE *kaghio, Mongolian kagalta, kashia
32. To fight: PIE *kat-, Mongolian katga, katgald
33. To flow: PIE *ers-, *ros-, Mongolian ors-, urs-
34. Food: PIE *eda, Mongolian edee
35. To freeze: PIE *gel-, Mongolian kuld, kild
36. Glow: PIE *gulo (glowing coal), Mongolian gila-, gilalz
37. To grasp: PIE *ap-, Mongolian ab-
38. Grey: PIE *salo, Mongolian saral
39. To grind: PIE *kueru, Mongolian kawir-
40. Hard: PIE *kal, *kart, Mongolian katu
41. To hit: PIE *bheleu, *bhlae, *dhelg, *skai, *steuk, Mongolian balba, deld, soki
42. Hollow (adjective): PIE *kouos, Mongolian kowosun
43. How: PIE *kuali, Mongolian kerken
44. How many: PIE *kueti, Mongolian keden
45. To howl: PIE *ul-, Mongolian uli-
46. Hungry: PIE *ele, *elek, Mongolian elus
47. If: PIE *kuom, Mongolian kerev
48. Juice: PIE *seu, *suu, *seuk, Mongolian shuus, shius (fruit juice, liquid produced by wounds, meat juice)

Frederik Kortlandt published his study "Indo-Uralic and Altaic revisited" as chapter 9 in "Transeurasian verbal morphology in a comparative perspective: genealogy, contact, chance. Edited by Lars Johanson and Martine Robbeets. 2009." So even though I went through a doubt stage, I guess there are other people who are starting to notice more and more similarities.

[Swarthy_Syndicate]

In a really weird way Mongolian often sounds like a Native American dialect

[Batu]

Altaic classification is not valid. There has never been a language family called Altaic. Because it doesn't fit the definition of language family. A definition as Indo-Uralic is also not valid. None of them fit the definition of a true language family. The origins of these people are different. But the fact that their origins are different does not mean that borrowing cannot be done. It is likely that these people once lived together and greatly influenced each other. It is also possible to find very old words between Indo-European languages, Turkic and Semitic. It shows ancient interaction ties and relationships between these languages, not their ancestry.

Therefore, Nostratic is a dense web of interaction rather than a language family. And yes, they really interacted. Much more than we thought.