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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    People have written about how the current Iranian regime can be overthrown peaceably. What wonders would be unleashed if Iranzamin returns to civilization!
    Except I can't really see a smooth transition, any type of chaos that arises in Iranian society will be taken advantage of by its enemies. What will likely result will be a disastrous civil war and when Iran is weakened enough, there may be an actual invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Except I can't really see a smooth transition, any type of chaos that arises in Iranian society will be taken advantage of by its enemies. What will likely result will be a disastrous civil war and when Iran is weakened enough, there may be an actual invasion.
    Thats what i also predicted. In fact, im convinced that this is what its starting to look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Except I can't really see a smooth transition, any type of chaos that arises in Iranian society will be taken advantage of by its enemies. What will likely result will be a disastrous civil war and when Iran is weakened enough, there may be an actual invasion.
    Even though what the US and UK oil interests did with "Old Mossy" was crooked, Iran would've done just fine under the Shah.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    Even though what the US and UK oil interests did with "Old Mossy" was crooked, Iran would've done just fine under the Shah.
    Yeah. Well, Iran would've remained a semi-colony, but it would've prospered.

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    Attacking Police in Iran
    Michael S. Rozeff
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    Reuters has reported attacks on police stations in Iran. Attacks like that occurred in Syria at the outset of that war. They suggest organized rebellious elements or instigators with a planned road map to cause the governing system to fall. Such attacks are not the usual instruments of peaceful protests. They cause the police to use greater force in defense. That makes the state’s forces look repressive, which helps to spiral resistance and chaos upwards, the goal being to create a revolutionary environment. In the Syrian case, suicide bombers also entered the fray, killing police and civilians, even though the Syrian case began with relatively peaceful protests.

    I take the attacks on police as evidence that some serious revolutionary instigators are at work stoking the protests. Circumstantial evidence of policy changes in the U.S. preceding the violence does suggest the hidden hands of U.S. and Israeli providing money, guidance and organization to agents provocateurs within Iran. I would not expect “ordinary” economics based protests to attack police and military bases. It would not, however, be surprising for crowds to be brought to a point of chanting anti-regime slogans, as crowds afford individuals with a feeling of courage and anonymity.

    Further evidence of U.S. involvement at a deep level is U.S. open support of the protesters. Not only is Trump tweeting on this, but also see this article in which Undersecretary of State Steve Goldstein makes a number of statements on the record that basically call for regime change in coded language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    Attacking Police in Iran
    Michael S. Rozeff
    January 2, 2018
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    Reuters has reported attacks on police stations in Iran. Attacks like that occurred in Syria at the outset of that war. They suggest organized rebellious elements or instigators with a planned road map to cause the governing system to fall. Such attacks are not the usual instruments of peaceful protests. They cause the police to use greater force in defense. That makes the state’s forces look repressive, which helps to spiral resistance and chaos upwards, the goal being to create a revolutionary environment. In the Syrian case, suicide bombers also entered the fray, killing police and civilians, even though the Syrian case began with relatively peaceful protests.

    I take the attacks on police as evidence that some serious revolutionary instigators are at work stoking the protests. Circumstantial evidence of policy changes in the U.S. preceding the violence does suggest the hidden hands of U.S. and Israeli providing money, guidance and organization to agents provocateurs within Iran. I would not expect “ordinary” economics based protests to attack police and military bases. It would not, however, be surprising for crowds to be brought to a point of chanting anti-regime slogans, as crowds afford individuals with a feeling of courage and anonymity.

    Further evidence of U.S. involvement at a deep level is U.S. open support of the protesters. Not only is Trump tweeting on this, but also see this article in which Undersecretary of State Steve Goldstein makes a number of statements on the record that basically call for regime change in coded language.
    Doubt it. Same shit happened in 2010 and 1988. The only difference is that this one has more people. People are simply sick and fucking tired of being treated like shit for 40 years.

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    What started the protests?
    The current protests began in Mashhad on Thursday over living standards and rising food prices, and by Friday had spread to several major cities.
    Except it's no true that the Iranian economy is deteriorating.



    Iranian inflation is lower than in the past years, and so is unemployement, normal figures and lower than before.



    This is probably another "Orange revolution" sponsored by the U.S.

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    Well, that's what happens when you spend more on kabooms than kebabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    Except it's no true that the Iranian economy is deteriorating.



    Iranian inflation is lower than in the past years, and so is unemployement, normal figures and lower than before.



    This is probably another "Orange revolution" sponsored by the U.S.
    Mullahs never gave back any retirement money back to the people who worked for the past 50 years.

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