Are South Slavs closer to Greeks or Northern Slavs genetically

[Varda]

Matej Ninoslav hahahah. Why doesn't he have Serb name?

Poor you

Matej = Christian name
Ninoslav = Slavic name

You don't understand a single word from his charter!

In the charter he mentioned Serbs, not Croatians!

Poor you.

[Jana]

Matej = Christian name
Ninoslav = Slavic name

You don't understand a single word from his charter!

In the charter he mentioned Serbs, not Croatians!

Poor you.

Matej is ofcourse in this region only Croatian Catholic name, as well as Nino.
Matej Ninoslav was surely a Croat and a Catholic according to his name.

Just like vast majority of Bosnia was Catholic.

[Vrazijadivizija]

Matej = Christian name
Ninoslav = Slavic name

You don't understand a single word from his charter!

In the charter he mentioned Serbs, not Croatians!

Poor you.

Must ve been sad when you realised its all under Croatia rule way before Serbs were mingled from Bulgarian side to the West hahaha Why dont you look to ur roots to the east? there u have some of ur History thats left while u still didint run to the Croat Lands just like ur poor Ancestors,always adopting other ways to claim it yours Varda stop dreaming about something you never had or u never were :"D

[Jana]

Before his rule, early in his life, Ninoslav was an opposer of the Bogumils, a faithful Hungarian supporter and a pious Catholic Christian. Entering his rule, Matej Ninoslav forcibly replaced his predecessor, Stjepan Kulinić with the help of the adherents of the Bogumil Bosnian Church, which caused good relations with Serbia to sour.

During his rule, Ninoslav served as a faithful Hungarian vassal, but was greatly underestimated during his reign. The Prenestine Bishop James, serving as the Pope's legate, finished a business in Hungary and came to Bosnia to influence Matej Ninoslav to give a statement that he will remain a Catholic, even though his ancestors were Bogomil heretics. The Roman Pope wrote a letter to Matej Ninoslav thus on 10 October 1233, guaranteeing his integrity and putting him under his protectorate:

Hugging you with true love, your person and your land of Bosnia. We accept under the protection of Saint Peter and Us with all the lands, that you rightfully hold, and We stand by you through the protection of this letter, as long as you remain in Catholic religion...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matej_Ninoslav

[Varda]

Matej is ofcourse in this region only Croatian Catholic name, as well as Nino.
Matej Ninoslav was surely a Croat and a Catholic according to his name.

Just like vast majority of Bosnia was Catholic.

Cyrillic Croatian who mentioned only Serbs and Vlachs in his charter.

This is relations of Croatians towards the script which used Matej Ninoslav and all others medieval Bosnian rulers and noblemen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-C...sts_in_Croatia

Croatians hate Cyrillic.

Cyrillic script is created only for Orthodox Slavs. Deal with it!

[Dušan]

Before his rule, early in his life, Ninoslav was an opposer of the Bogumils, a faithful Hungarian supporter and a pious Catholic Christian. Entering his rule, Matej Ninoslav forcibly replaced his predecessor, Stjepan Kulinić with the help of the adherents of the Bogumil Bosnian Church, which caused good relations with Serbia to sour.

During his rule, Ninoslav served as a faithful Hungarian vassal, but was greatly underestimated during his reign. The Prenestine Bishop James, serving as the Pope's legate, finished a business in Hungary and came to Bosnia to influence Matej Ninoslav to give a statement that he will remain a Catholic, even though his ancestors were Bogomil heretics. The Roman Pope wrote a letter to Matej Ninoslav thus on 10 October 1233, guaranteeing his integrity and putting him under his protectorate:

Hugging you with true love, your person and your land of Bosnia. We accept under the protection of Saint Peter and Us with all the lands, that you rightfully hold, and We stand by you through the protection of this letter, as long as you remain in Catholic religion...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matej_Ninoslav

Why you didnt quote this:

The Hungarians amassed an immense Crusader Force. The Bosnians didn't want to give up their religion for another, under Hungarian sword, so they organized resistance. Soon the Crusaders, led by Croatia's Herzog Coloman, stormed Bosnia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matej_...d_the_Crusades

Even though some Bosnian rulers were forced to accept Catholicism, ordinary poeple of Bosnia never wanted to be Catholics.
Hungary together with its vassal Croatia took several Crusades on Bosnia to forced population on other religion, but without success. Bosnia was never majority Catholic.

And it is not today as well.

[TheOldNorth]

greeks, or albanians and romanians probably more-so. 23&me has most south slavs being mostly balkan in genetics, even before the update that took away the connection between the categories and medieval populations (i.e. british and irish being around 100% in Irish but only about ~60~40% in English)

[Dušan]

And this:

The Bosnian heresy remained strong, so King Bela IV and the Roman Catholic Archbishop requested that Pope Innocent IV launch a new Crusade against Ninoslav in 1247.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matej_...ainst_Ninoslav

[TheOldNorth]

lol, dude. Where TF is that PCA from? It certainly doesn't show aDNA as it puts Bosnians close to Germans, Croats close to Orcadians, Slovenes close to Swedes etc.

EDIT: Mistook you from Litvin. Less surprising you'd post that

I think thats on a scale of eastern to western component and not northern to southern

[Jana]

Why you didnt quote this:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matej_...d_the_Crusades

Even though some Bosnian rulers were forced to accept Catholicism, ordinary poeple of Bosnia never wanted to be Catholics.
Hungary together with its vassal Croatia took several Crusades on Bosnia to forced population on other religion, but without success. Bosnia was never majority Catholic.

And it is not today as well.

False. Bogumilism was never massively widespread in Bosnia, mostly among elite. Masses were in vast majority Catholic, and in very small minority orthodox in Podrinje and east Herzegovina.
Before penetration of Bogumilism Bosnia was clear Catholic land and there is no relevant historian disputing that.