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    And I don't get the point of Catholic prosecution of herectics, since Orthodox did the same.

    The Bogomils spread westwards and settled in Serbia, where they were to be known as Babuns (Babuni). At the end of the 12th century Serbian Grand Prince Stefan Nemanja and the Serbian council deemed Bogomilism a heresy, and expelled them from the country. Large numbers, majority of Vlach origin, took refuge in Bosnia and Dalmatia where they were known under the name of Patarenes (Patareni).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogomilism



    Council against Bogomilism, organized by Stefan Nemanja. Fresco from 1290

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    greeks, or albanians and romanians probably more-so. 23&me has most south slavs being mostly balkan in genetics, even before the update that took away the connection between the categories and medieval populations (i.e. british and irish being around 100% in Irish but only about ~60~40% in English)
    Balkan on 23andme does not mean ancient Paleo Balkan admixture, it's based on modern SE Euro populations. Weird how there are still people who don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    False. Bogumilism was never massively widespread in Bosnia, mostly among elite. Masses were in vast majority Catholic, and in very small minority orthodox in Podrinje and east Herzegovina.
    Before penetration of Bogumilism Bosnia was clear Catholic land and there is no relevant historian disputing that.
    Bogomilism was one heresy in eastern Christianity.
    Bogomilism/Paulicianism originated in Byzantine (Asia Minor) https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogumili_u_Vizantiji

    Bosnia was several times target of crusade by Hungarian kings with blessing of the pope. Reason was because Bosnia was full of heretics (Bogomils and Orthodoxes). It's mentioned in papal bulls. Pope wanted to impose Catholicism in Bosnia, because of that he started crusades on Bosnia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    And I don't get the point of Catholic prosecution of herectics, since Orthodox did the same.

    The Bogomils spread westwards and settled in Serbia, where they were to be known as Babuns (Babuni). At the end of the 12th century Serbian Grand Prince Stefan Nemanja and the Serbian council deemed Bogomilism a heresy, and expelled them from the country. Large numbers, majority of Vlach origin, took refuge in Bosnia and Dalmatia where they were known under the name of Patarenes (Patareni).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogomilism



    Council against Bogomilism, organized by Stefan Nemanja. Fresco from 1290
    Lot of Bogomils from Serbia proper settled in Bosnia.
    How can you call that population Croatian and Catholic LOL?

    By the way, this is list of bishops of Bosnian church.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_Church

    In Cyrillic, off course, and had Serb names: Radoje, Radovan, Ratko, Dragoš, Radoslav, Miroslav.






    Bosnia seems the only medieval Catholic country that used Cyrillic alphabet and on who Pope took several Crusades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Cyrillic Croatian who mentioned only Serbs and Vlachs in his charter.

    This is relations of Croatians towards the script which used Matej Ninoslav and all others medieval Bosnian rulers and noblemen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-C...sts_in_Croatia

    Croatians hate Cyrillic.

    Cyrillic script is created only for Orthodox Slavs. Deal with it!
    Croatian nazi state law in 1941.

    "In territory of independent state of Croatia it is forbiden to use Cyrillic script"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    And I don't get the point of Catholic prosecution of herectics, since Orthodox did the same.

    The Bogomils spread westwards and settled in Serbia, where they were to be known as Babuns (Babuni). At the end of the 12th century Serbian Grand Prince Stefan Nemanja and the Serbian council deemed Bogomilism a heresy, and expelled them from the country. Large numbers, majority of Vlach origin, took refuge in Bosnia and Dalmatia where they were known under the name of Patarenes (Patareni).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogomilism



    Council against Bogomilism, organized by Stefan Nemanja. Fresco from 1290
    Bogomislims from Byzantine first arrived in Bulgaria and Macedonia.
    Babuna mountain and Bogimila are named by Babuns/Bogomils
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babuna_(mountain)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogomila

    From Bulgaria/Macedonia bogomilism spread to Raška. Stefan Nemanja in 12th century expelled bogomils from Raška and they escaped to Bosnia. In Bosnia bogomilism became numerous movement and existed in next 250 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Croatian nazi state law in 1941.

    "In territory of independent state of Croatia it is forbiden to use Cyrillic script"

    Cyrillic was script of medieval Bosnia. Croatians claim Bosnian medieval culture and they are anti-Cyrillic!

    Charter of Bosnian diplomat Pribislav Pohvalić from early 15th century. Charter is on ikavian and Cyrillic and he mentioned Serbs as you can see ("ovi list srpski", "u prvom listu srpskom") https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pribislav_Pohvalić


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    False. Bogumilism was never massively widespread in Bosnia, mostly among elite. Masses were in vast majority Catholic, and in very small minority orthodox in Podrinje and east Herzegovina.
    Before penetration of Bogumilism Bosnia was clear Catholic land and there is no relevant historian disputing that.
    Hahaaaaa...
    Bogomilism arrived in Bosnia in 12th century. Catholicism exist since 1054. That means Bosnia was pred. Catholic only 100 years (according to you).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Balkan on 23andme does not mean ancient Paleo Balkan admixture, it's based on modern SE Euro populations. Weird how there are still people who don't get it.
    even so, the fact that SE euro is different enough to be classed differently then eastern European means that they are closer to Greeks and Romanians then to Russians and Poles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrazijadivizija View Post
    Herzegovinian Serbs or Dalmatian Serbs idk whats more funny to laugh about,or maybe its Srpsko Junaštvo thats more funnier?
    Even part of Montenegros doesent like you and makes fun of you.Vratite se korinu Susjedskom,možda tada budete imali išta od Junaštva naspram Bošnjaka.
    Montenegrins have nothing to do with Croatians. They are divided on Serbs and Montenegrins (Serbs brainwashed by communist propaganda who claim they are separate nation).

    On my signature is group of Dalmatian Serbs from mid of 19th century. Their look like superior compared to your Slavonian kmetovi!

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