Are South Slavs closer to Greeks or Northern Slavs genetically

[Dušan]

Phenotypically speaking Muslim Bosniaks are more similar to Serbs imho though at least.

They are mostly descendants of islamized Serbs. And to less extent of islamized Croats.
Ex member of forum, Bosniensis is my distant cousin by Y-line.

[Jana]

They are mostly descendants of islamized Serbs. And to less extent of islamized Croats.
Ex member of forum, Bosniensis is my distant cousin by Y-line.

They aren't mostly descendants of Serbs because vast majority of Bosniaks were ikavian speakers, and ikavians are Croats while Serbs are not.

[Dušan]

They aren't mostly descendants of Serbs because vast majority of Bosniaks were ikavian speakers, and ikavians are Croats while Serbs are not.

Wrong.
One part of Bosnian Muslims were ikavian, but majority were ijekavian speakers.

Only this purple areas are/were ikavian.

[Jana]

Wrong.
One part of Bosnian Muslims were ikavian, but majority were ijekavian speakers.

Only this purple areas are/were ikavian.

Yellow area is in vast majority inhabited by Serbs.

Ijekaviazation of Bosniaks is a historical fact, and most live in green dialect area which is more connected with old Slavonian and again unrelated with Serbs.

Anyway, majority surely aren't Serbs, it's enough to see faces of both and see they aren't descendants of you.

[Robocop]

Phenotypically speaking Muslim Bosniaks are more similar to Serbs imho though at least.

Well, as Geography and Genetics shows, it's only natural that Bosniaks would be some sort of... well "bridge"/hybrid between Croats and Serbs, in between.

I saw some Bosniaks (even though rare) with that Atlanto VIBE which you can find in Coastal Dalmatia (south Europe) everywhere, but then again I saw many of them with let's say DinaroPontid vibe which is like Serbian vibe, but then again I saw many of them Norics and Baltids like North Croats, but then again (LOL) I saw some of them as somethin like in between of Pontid and East Med, which is common in South Serbia...etc...

[Robocop]

Yellow area is in vast majority inhabited by Serbs.

Correction; WAS inhabited by Serbs.

[Jana]

Correction; WAS inhabited by Serbs.

In BiH it is. Anyway I don't see Bosniaks as Croats at all in case somebody would suggest that (and they don't look like Croats either but have their own distinct look), but I def. don't see them as islamised Serbs, pure propaganda. They're their own thing for centuries and even from pre-Turkish times and yeah they have lot of admix from both (and other peoples too), but that's irrelevant.

[Dušan]

Yellow area is in vast majority inhabited by Serbs.

True.

Ijekaviazation of Bosniaks is a historical fact, and most live in green dialect area which is more connected with old Slavonian and again unrelated with Serbs.

Green area on map is area were most of Bosniaks live, and it is sort of ijekavian, not ikavian.

Anyway, majority surely aren't Serbs, it's enough to see faces of both and see they aren't descendants of you.

You can keep all of them if you like them so much.

[Varda]

Yellow area is in vast majority inhabited by Serbs.

Ijekaviazation of Bosniaks is a historical fact, and most live in green dialect area which is more connected with old Slavonian and again unrelated with Serbs.

Anyway, majority surely aren't Serbs, it's enough to see faces of both and see they aren't descendants of you.

Serbs of western Bosnia and Croatia in strong majority are speakers of Neretva-Krajina neoshtokavian yekavian which is sub-dialect of East Herzegovinian.

Serbs from western Bosnia and Croatia who are not speakers of this dialect are speakers of younger ikavian (Kupres, Duvno, Livno, and some areas of Dalmatia), and new shtokavian ekavian (2-3 villages around Vukovar).

[Robocop]

In BiH it is. Anyway I don't see Bosniaks as Croats at all in case somebody would suggest that (and they don't look like Croats either but have their own distinct look), but I def. don't see them as islamised Serbs, pure propaganda. They're their own thing for centuries and even from pre-Turkish times and yeah they have lot of admix from both (and other peoples too), but that's irrelevant.

Yes I agree they had their own "thing" even before Bosnia fell under Ottomans, but real question is this: would Bosnia today have any state-sense of existence (along with Bosniaks as nation today) if Ottomans never came there and never Islamized them? What do you think?