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Thread: Are Finns genetically closer to Swedes or Northwest Russians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComplicatedMystery View Post
    They're closer to Northwestern Russians than Swedes due to Siberian admixture (5%-15% in Finns, 10%-27% in Russians). Swedes have little-to-non Siberian admixture. Also don't Northwestern Russians cluster with Finns and Saamis?
    Genetically Swedish and Estonians are the closest to today's Finns. Not Russians. That still does not mean that Finns would be very close to Swedish. Finns are someway distant to all others...bit unique and simply been more isolated population than any others in Europe.

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    Closer to Swedes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComplicatedMystery View Post
    They're closer to Northwestern Russians than Swedes due to Siberian admixture (5%-15% in Finns, 10%-27% in Russians). Swedes have little-to-non Siberian admixture. Also don't Northwestern Russians cluster with Finns and Saamis?
    Why are you being so stupid? In Russian there is no Siberian admixture. Finns also do not have Siberian impurities. Why are you making up nonexistent interest rates, you idiot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Genetically Swedish and Estonians are the closest to today's Finns. Not Russians. That still does not mean that Finns would be very close to Swedish. Finns are someway distant to all others...bit unique and simply been more isolated population than any others in Europe.
    Estonians are genetically close to the Russian and the Baltic States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krivich View Post
    Estonians are genetically close to the Russian and the Baltic States.
    And to Finns.

    Based on pure outlook...ethnic Estonians looks clearly more closer to Finns than Baltics do (= Latvians or Lithuanians). And for me Estonians also looks more Finns to than average Russians (St. Petersburg area). But there are lots Russians living in Estonia...which might give opposite opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    And to Finns.

    Based on pure outlook...ethnic Estonians looks clearly more closer to Finns than Baltics do (= Latvians or Lithuanians). And for me Estonians also looks more Finns to than average Russians (St. Petersburg area). But there are lots Russians living in Estonia...which might give opposite opinion.
    I counted on different ethnic calculators, Erogenes K36, K47, MDLP ... Estonians are everywhere in the cluster along with the Eastern Slavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    It depends. In general they are closer to Russians due to shared Siberian input (around 5-15%), but Southwestern Finns are closer to Swedes.
    Russians have less Siberian admixture than Southwestern Finns, and very similar to Estonians.

    SW Russians don't have even Estonian levels of Siberian admixture.



    Paper on the genetic diversity in Sweden placed Russia between Sweden and West Finland.

    Sweden itself was placed between Celto-Germanic cluster (Germany, UK, Orcadians) and Russia.

    https://www.discovermagazine.com/the...so-homogeneous


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    Here we go again

    West-Finland East-Finland
    UK-Kent 0.005/0.0002 0.009/0.0003
    West-Finland 0.002/0.0002
    East-Finland 0.002/0.0002
    CEU 0.004/0.0002 0.009/0.0002
    Italy-Tuscan 0.010/0.0002 0.015/0.0003
    Mordva 0.005/0.0002 0.008/0.0003
    Mari 0.020/0.0004 0.021/0.0004
    Estonia 0.002/0.0002 0.005/0.0002
    Chuvash 0.012/0.0003 0.014/0.0003
    Belarussia 0.005/0.0002 0.009/0.0003
    Russia-Vologda 0.004/0.0003 0.006/0.0003
    France 0.006/0.0003 0.011/0.0003
    Norway 0.004/0.0002 0.008/0.0003
    Poland 0.004/0.0002 0.008/0.0002
    Spain 0.008/0.0004 0.013/0.0004
    West-Russia 0.004/0.0002 0.008/0.0002
    Hungary 0.004/0.0003 0.009/0.0003
    Romania 0.007/0.0003 0.012/0.0004
    Ukraine 0.004/0.0002 0.008/0.0002
    Bulgaria 0.007/0.0003 0.011/0.0003
    Sweden 0.003/0.0002 0.007/0.0003
    Tatar 0.007/0.0003 0.010/0.0003
    Croatia 0.006/0.0002 0.010/0.0003
    Italy-Abruzzo 0.012/0.0003 0.017/0.0004
    Italy-Sicily 0.013/0.0003 0.017/0.0004

    The closest group fo West-Finns are Estonians, followed by Swedes.

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