Difference between Albanians and Greeks?

[Lioncourt]

Macedonians are very close to Albanians and Northern Greeks, Bulgarians are halfway between Serbs and Northern Greeks. Which shows original South Slavs genetics were already good chunk native Balkan before formation of Bulgarian ethnicity. For sure Serbs are much more native than mainland Greeks are Slavic.

[Sikeliot]

Albanians are more northern shifted and sometimes western shifted than Greeks. Albanians do have different subclades of E-V13 than Greeks, the J2 dominant in Albanians is J2b2 whilst in Greeks it’s J2a also from what I have seen Albanians have more R1b-BY611

Most Greeks still don't plot with Sicily or Crete.

[Kelmendasi]

Most Greeks still don't plot with Sicily or Crete.

Never said they do

[Voskos]

What is the difference between Albanians and Greeks?

Genetically speaking (ONLY)

I've seen a lot of EV13 results and compared them with Greek ones... they look the same to me?

Is there any difference?

[Sikeliot]

Never said they do

According to Sarno et al 2017, Northern Greeks have more "European-like" (WHG/BaltoSlavic etc) admixture than any of the Albanian samples, while the Albanians are more similar to the Peloponnese sample. All of them are, however, closer to one another than any of them are to the Sicilians, South Italians, or Aegean islanders.

[Cristiano viejo]

The main difference is that Greeks are white and their culture European, while Albanians are not and their culture neither.

Then there are many smaller differences more, as that Greece is a developed country and First World, good at sport with an excellent cuisine, landscapes, women, etc

[Kelmendasi]

According to Sarno et al 2017, Northern Greeks have more "European-like" (WHG/BaltoSlavic etc) admixture than any of the Albanian samples, while the Albanians are more similar to the Peloponnese sample. All of them are, however, closer to one another than any of them are to the Sicilians, South Italians, or Aegean islanders.

[im]https://i.imgur.com/At7zA24.png[/img]

But what you’re forgetting is that the “Sardinian-like admixture” has tonnes of WHG within it and Albanians have more of this than Greeks. Albanians are more northern plotting than even northern Greeks and have more WHG on average.

[Sikeliot]

But what you’re forgetting is that the “Sardinian-like admixture” has tonnes of WHG within it and Albanians have more of this than Greeks. Albanians are more northern plotting than even northern Greeks and have more WHG on average.

But if you look, the main difference between the Albanians and Greeks there is a TINY amount of Near Eastern in the Greeks compared to the Albanians (but this difference is far smaller than the difference between either one and the South Italians), and northern Greeks having more Slavic-like ancestry and less Sardinian.

This means to me the Greeks will be more NE shifted and the Albanians more NW shifted, not that the Greeks will be more southern.

[Kelmendasi]

But if you look, the main difference between the Albanians and Greeks there is a TINY amount of Near Eastern in the Greeks compared to the Albanians (but this difference is far smaller than the difference between either one and the South Italians), and northern Greeks having more Slavic-like ancestry and less Sardinian.

This means to me the Greeks will be more NE shifted and the Albanians more NW shifted, not that the Greeks will be more southern.

But they still plot south from Albanians is what I’m on about and that Albos have more WHG

[Sikeliot]

But they still plot south from Albanians is what I’m on about and that Albos have more WHG

Albanians have more indigenous Southern European ancestry than do Greeks. Greeks have more NE European/"Slavic" ancestry and more Anatolian than Albanians. I am unsure why this would make Albanians plot north.