Difference between Albanians and Greeks?

[Kelmendasi]

Albanians have more indigenous Southern European ancestry than do Greeks. Greeks have more NE European/"Slavic" ancestry and more Anatolian than Albanians. I am unsure why this would make Albanians plot north.

Because Albanians have more WHG and EEF than Greeks do. I can make a plot on K15 of the Greek regions by using averages like what I did for Albanians if you want.

[Lavrentis]

Albanians have more indigenous Southern European ancestry than do Greeks.I am unsure why this would make Albanians plot north.

How is that possible when Greeks are more Med than Albanians?


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[Sikeliot]

How is that possible when Greeks are more Med than Albanians?


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I don't know, but on that chart, the Albanians have more Sardinian-like ancestry and less "European-like" than northern Greeks.

The Cretans and Sicilians are not more 'Med' even though they plot south of both Albanians and mainland Greeks, rather they're more Near Eastern.

[CabOOM]

Albanians have more indigenous Southern European ancestry than do Greeks. Greeks have more NE European/"Slavic" ancestry and more Anatolian than Albanians. I am unsure why this would make Albanians plot north.

Plotting is not real science. It is essentially an attempt to simplify a multidimensional image in 2-dimensions. I think the northern plot Albanians have is a result of plotting error. What I think at least.

It almost feels like history is missing one big event to understand these discrepancies.

[Lavrentis]

I don't know, but on that chart, the Albanians have more Sardinian-like ancestry and less "European-like" than northern Greeks.

And on the graph I posted earlier Greeks scored more Italy/Greece than Albanians.

And yes, both Sicilians and Cretans are more Med than Albanians.


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[Sikeliot]

And on the graph I posted earlier Greeks scored more Italy/Greece than Albanians.

And yes, both Sicilians and Cretans are more Med than Albanians.

Because Greeks are part of the Italy/Greece reference population, and Albanians are not.

[Lavrentis]

Because Greeks are part of the Italy/Greece reference population, and Albanians are not.

Okay, but here’s another thing: OP from this thread has made a graph using Albanians and Greeks and the Greek sample scored more West Med than the Albanian sample.


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[Sikeliot]

Okay, but here’s another thing: OP from this thread has made a graph using Albanians and Greeks and the Greek sample scored more West Med than the Albanian sample.


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I have no idea. I just know that differentiating between Albanians and Greeks seems futile since they plot closer to one another than either to anyone else.

[Bosniensis]

I have no idea. I just know that differentiating between Albanians and Greeks seems futile since they plot closer to one another than either to anyone else.

I haven't seen a two nations who plot so close to each other as Albanians do to Greeks.

Could it be that Albanians are Hellenic people who failed to become a part of Greek state?

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Albanians are most western alike Balkanites, score highest Atlanto-Med/or West Med of any Balkan group, you can compare that with any calculator, Greeks score more West Asian/Caucasus also East Med.